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Re:Linux 5.10 by holistio on Sunday December 13, 2020 @08:06PM (#25412210)
Not trying to be rude here, but how many people do actually care about kernel releases?

I've used a bunch of distributions, even rolled my own when I was a teenager. Kernel version back then was around 2.6, and a new release didn't change anything for me as a mostly desktop user.

Is it different for many professionals? Are there people waiting for a new release, are there big problems to be solved or "Linux is ready" and it's mostly maintenance nowadays?

Re:Linux 5.10 by candiddevmike on Sunday December 13, 2020 @08:08PM (#25412224)
I enjoy reading about new kernel features, and 5.10 is somewhat more newsworthy than others as it's a Long Term Support (LTS) release.
Re:Linux 5.10 by pengaru on Monday December 14, 2020 @01:12AM (#25414087)
One of the great things about using linux is the kernel really does matter to both users and developers, and every release tends to bring relevant goodies and fixes.

Due to the unparalleled transparency of not just a GPL source but a completely open development model, there's a whole lot more than just a version number to appreciate and investigate if so inclined.

Also having the bulk of drivers in-tree, kernel releases affect a lot more than just core stuff like the scheduler, memory management, and interrupt controllers.

Re:Linux 5.10 by deviantfero on Sunday December 13, 2020 @08:13PM (#25412274)
New devices need new drivers or fixes for existing drivers, an anecdotal example is that my new T14 the lid close wasn't detected correctly and it was fixed with a new kernel release, so I was expecting a new kernel release, I'd figure that is the most common reason, linux is ready, but new exciting features are still being actively developed
Re:Linux 5.10 by talawahtech on Sunday December 13, 2020 @08:12PM (#25412269)
I am looking forward to it because it is an LTS release that has all the latest io_uring enhancements.

io_uring looks like it will be a big deal, it will probably be a while before it really hits mainstream, but I was waiting on 5.10 before trying it out.

Re:Linux 5.10 by jackweirdy on Sunday December 13, 2020 @08:11PM (#25412255)
In this case I am excited as this is the first LTS with some new drivers I am waiting for (adafruit MCP2221A usb GPIO board, new drivers expose USB GPIO)
Re:Linux 5.10 by contingencies on Sunday December 13, 2020 @09:21PM (#25412820)
An eye on the Linux kernel is a good way to keep up with what's generally going on in computing. If you haven't built a kernel in awhile, go do it and marvel at the new options. When you see something you are interested in, read up and try it, and you'll be ahead of the proverbial curve.
Re:Linux 5.10 by jdc on Sunday December 13, 2020 @08:08PM (#25412225)
It matters to kernel API users (see io_uring), gamers and heavy virtualization users to name a few.
Re:Linux 5.10 by wakeywakeywakey on Sunday December 13, 2020 @08:11PM (#25412254)
I'm waiting for hardware support for my particular laptop model, added in this release.
Re:Linux 5.10 by SulfurHexaFluri on Sunday December 13, 2020 @08:18PM (#25412306)
In 2019 I was compiling my own kernel to include a fix for my logitech racing wheel until the release was out. Also made me find out that its impossible to use the nvidia proprietary drivers on a prerelease kernel so I had to buy an AMD gpu as well.
Re:Linux 5.10 by gpm on Sunday December 13, 2020 @10:59PM (#25413395)
> Its impossible to use the nvidia proprietary drivers on a prerelease kernel

I managed to on 5.10-rc6? Had to upgrade to the "shortlived" version of the driver, but that went smoothly.

Re:Linux 5.10 by SulfurHexaFluri on Sunday December 13, 2020 @11:42PM (#25413641)
I think it depends on how different the kernel is. At the time I did it, nvidia had no published drivers that were compatible with the linux RC
Re:Linux 5.10 by gpm on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:34AM (#25413916)
That seems likely and would make sense.
Re:Linux 5.10 by abaga129 on Monday December 14, 2020 @01:31AM (#25414183)
Same here. Its really exciting to see something you are waiting for go into the kernel. Are you waiting for the lenovo legion and patches by chance?
Re:Linux 5.10 by ChuckMcM on Sunday December 13, 2020 @08:07PM (#25412218)
I do, but then I like to port them to bespoke ARM systems built using complex FPGAs.
Re:Linux 5.10 by viraptor on Sunday December 13, 2020 @08:30PM (#25412427)
I do care. uring mentioned by others, btrfs changes, bcachefs foundation work, anything tracing related, etc are interesting to me.

The whole tracing story in Linux has changed in the recent years. It's really useful in practice.

Re:Linux 5.10 by ta988 on Sunday December 13, 2020 @08:13PM (#25412279)
I do, that's how I learn about how some new hardware work or how a problem I had to do workarounds for was solved.
Re:Linux 5.10 by chaosharmonic on Sunday December 13, 2020 @08:31PM (#25412432)
Changes from one release to the next probably won't matter very much to most individual users, unless something specific you're using is getting support added, but you'll usually find at least one or two major features between LTS releases, including stuff that impacts ecosystems beyond just GNU systems.

Wireguard and exFAT are a couple of notable ones that have been mainlined since 5.4, with the latter impacting basically anything that uses SD cards (as it's a required part of the SDXC spec)

Re:Linux 5.10 by shmerl on Sunday December 13, 2020 @08:12PM (#25412268)
Depends on your hardware. For new AMD cards, they a lot of times bring critical bug fixes. Same applies to a lot of other cases.
Re:Linux 5.10 by edoceo on Sunday December 13, 2020 @09:57PM (#25413033)
The last "big deal" for me was when Wireguard got merged. Oh baby, that was a good one, I think I was excited about that release for like a week - cause I use the shit out of WG - WG all the things. And that was this year (or last?). So, I'm just a +1 to someone who has cared about a recent release.
Re:Linux 5.10 by mixmastamyk on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:42AM (#25413954)
Currently top post on this thread details an issue fixed I've been facing for years. So yes, interested.
Re:Linux 5.10 by dsr_ on Sunday December 13, 2020 @09:41PM (#25412945)
Even if you're running a stable distribution, kernels get backported and so do fixes. Is every kernel release interesting to everyone? No, not any more. Is it worth looking at to see what is happening? I think so.
Re:Linux 5.10 by nextaccountic on Sunday December 13, 2020 @08:39PM (#25412518)
I care about new APIs, in special io_uring, https://boats.gitlab.io/blog/post/iou/
Re:Linux 5.10 by corford on Monday December 14, 2020 @07:31AM (#25416635)
User extended attributes (xattrs) for NFS (landed in kernel 5.9) was a feature some people, including me, were waiting years for.
Re:Linux 5.10 by nly on Monday December 14, 2020 @03:51AM (#25414835)
Well, I care because this is the first kernel release that supports my laptops WiFi chip (the Killer AX500-DBS, which is a QCA6390 based chip)