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Re:Nordic prison cells look like $3k apartments in San Franc... by hackinthebochs on Sunday December 13, 2020 @12:57PM (#25408478)
Race is important because people tend to support more punitive policies against transgressors of other races[1]. The demographics and the history of racial tension in the U.S. means that resistance to the Norwegian criminal justice model go far beyond considerations of cost.

[1] https://nicic.gov/race-and-punishment-racial-perceptions-cri...

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Re:Nordic prison cells look like $3k apartments in San Franc... by dang on Monday December 14, 2020 @02:16AM (#25414369)
Between this and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25368536 and other posts, it's clear that you're doing race war and that's not allowed on HN. I've banned this account.
Re:Nordic prison cells look like $3k apartments in San Franc... by hackinthebochs on Sunday December 13, 2020 @03:05PM (#25409701)
But crime rates do not by themselves entail retributive or punitive punishments. Because some demographic has high crime rates says nothing about the effectiveness of rehabilitative policies. People simply are more likely to have a punitive stance when the offender is of a different race.
Re:Nordic prison cells look like $3k apartments in San Franc... by colejohnson66 on Sunday December 13, 2020 @01:18PM (#25408697)
Is there actually a disparity in crime? Or just a reported one? If police believe blacks are more likely to commit crimes, they pay more attention to them and the cycle repeats.
Re:Nordic prison cells look like $3k apartments in San Franc... by MikeUt on Sunday December 13, 2020 @02:07PM (#25409141)
That's why the homicide rate is used for such comparisons. It's unaffected by overpolicing, and can't be swept under the rug either.
Re:Nordic prison cells look like $3k apartments in San Franc... by FruityCoconut on Sunday December 13, 2020 @02:13PM (#25409194)
FBI crime stats are a great source. For example, of murders in 2019, "Black or African American" accounted for 51% of murderers of known race (despite just 13.4% of the general population being black). https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-...

Less formally, and I'm quite serious, if you have the stomach for it I encourage you to explore the types of websites that inadvertently document these trends through amateur video (WorldStarHipHop being the classic example, but there are more confronting ones).

Re:Nordic prison cells look like $3k apartments in San Franc... by Privacy846 on Sunday December 13, 2020 @01:17PM (#25408689)
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