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Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by Barrin92 on Saturday December 12, 2020 @10:43PM (#25404124)
If Donald Trump, the individual, would be treated like an ordinary user he'd probably already been kicked off the platform.

The president of the US as an office has public, secure communication channels, Donald Trump, having signed the same TOS like anyone else, should be treated like everyone else. Not exactly sure why Twitter feels the need to be apologetic about how they moderate their platform.

Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by michaelmcdonald on Saturday December 12, 2020 @11:04PM (#25404214)
This! So very much, this! He’s not tweeting from the Twitter officially recognized @potus account; he’s doing so from the same account he registered as a regular citizen years ago.

This account should receive no special privileges. It’s asinine that Twitter ignores their own rules just to appease this man.

Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by sova on Saturday December 12, 2020 @11:44PM (#25404372)
He drives a lot of traffic to their site
Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by trissylegs on Saturday December 12, 2020 @11:59PM (#25404435)
Exaclty, I don't know how many times I've heard mention of Trump's Tweets in the news and elsewhere.
Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by barnaclejive on Sunday December 13, 2020 @12:29AM (#25404525)
if they cared about being on the right side of history, which apparently they do, if only for a "inadvertently limited" amount of time, they would forget about the traffic. That traffic is from mostly people people better off not being (a part of you engagement)
Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by sova on Sunday December 13, 2020 @12:53AM (#25404613)
Our nation is built on open discourse. One could argue that rather than silence opposition, one could inform the population. The "mother and father know best" attitude helps no one and fosters doubt into the integrity of things
Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by Inityx on Sunday December 13, 2020 @03:00AM (#25405049)
The last four years are damning evidence that the so-called "Marketplace of Ideas" is mostly just a petri dish for Fascism.
Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by krapp on Sunday December 13, 2020 @05:13AM (#25405522)
The fact no one wants to accept in this context is that markets need to be regulated or else they get taken over by snake oil salesmen and racketeers.
Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by FranzFerdiNaN on Sunday December 13, 2020 @03:55AM (#25405224)
Open discourse doesn’t mean giving everyone a platform.
Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by Dylan16807 on Sunday December 13, 2020 @05:03AM (#25405481)
Once a single voice is reaching enough people, I would argue that increasing the distribution of their words will on average decrease the amount of discourse. Almost no replies will be heard by a super-celeb, and it's hard to have a meaningful conversation with anyone else in the morass of replies.
Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by DangitBobby on Sunday December 13, 2020 @02:54AM (#25405034)
Isn't twitter doing exactly that by labeling each tweet explaining the lie(s) it contains?
Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by nobody9999 on Sunday December 13, 2020 @12:55AM (#25404618)
>That traffic is from mostly people people better off not being (a part of you engagement)

I disagree. Given that many of those folks have not only continued to engage with the soon-to-be ex-POTUS, even to the extent that they are happy to be suckers...err......donors to his grift[0]...err.."Election Defense Fund", I'd think that Twitter would want to keep those folks around -- the more gullible someone is, the more likely they'll click on ads and generate revenue.

And advertisers stand to make money on conversions, assuming those folks haven't already given all their money to the Trump "Election Defense" con...err...fundraising drive.

[0] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-fundra...

Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by threatofrain on Sunday December 13, 2020 @02:57AM (#25405043)
IMO, in all societies ever, we're not equal individuals and we shouldn't be treated alike. Some people are more important, and to pretend that the President of the US is the same as random Joe down the street is delusional. It would be just as bizarre to imagine that Xi Jinping is the same as random Chinese TikTok makeup artist.
Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by xdrosenheim on Saturday December 12, 2020 @11:05PM (#25404223)
Pretty sure that was a point early in his presidency where he was block, but Twitter being a US company was not allow to block the US president....?
Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by meekrohprocess on Sunday December 13, 2020 @01:30AM (#25404745)
Ironically, the 1st Amendment protects Twitter's ability to block anything that it likes.

Fundamentally, the government can't dictate what anybody chooses to publish (or not) on a website that they own. They can seize it and prosecute the owners if the content is illegal, but they can't force editorial decisions.

This whole arrangement drove a lot of traffic to Twitter and helped to keep it relevant; they just didn't want to kill their golden goose.

Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by 6gvONxR4sf7o on Saturday December 12, 2020 @11:31PM (#25404321)
Nope, no laws like that here. This was a Twitter decision.
Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by ardy42 on Sunday December 13, 2020 @06:28PM (#25411549)
> Pretty sure that was a point early in his presidency where he was block, but Twitter being a US company was not allow to block the US president....?

IIRC, there was a lawsuit that ruled that the president was not allowed to block other twitter users. As far as I know, it would still be totally withing twitter's right to block Trump, if it wanted. But I think they don't because what he says on Twitter reveals important information about his character.

Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by disown on Sunday December 13, 2020 @12:51AM (#25404607)
It isn't just Trump who gets special treatment. A lot of crazy people with blue check marks who get special privileges. After all, isn't that the kind of internet you want? Where certain people you agree with have privileges over everyone you disagree with?

Also, the president generally gets special privileges on media platforms because he is the president. That's just common sense.

Assuming you are american, I can't believe there are people actually advocating for big tech to censor the president. It just sounds insane to me that anyone would support such an idea.

Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by trident1000 on Sunday December 13, 2020 @02:37AM (#25404982)
What has he really done to merit being kicked off the platform? He just types in all caps and posts 50 times a day.
Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by Barrin92 on Sunday December 13, 2020 @02:45AM (#25404999)
Covid Misinformation and abuse seem most obvious, given that the platform has already removed Infowars and Alex Jones, whose content Trump at times ad verbatim retweeted. Here's a fairly long list[1] of public figures having been kicked off the platform for I suppose similar behaviour. I think even Trump Jr was suspended at one point.

Didn't Twitter even explicitly carve out an exemption for 'political figures'? Which let's be honest means Trump.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_suspensions#List_of_no...

Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by trident1000 on Sunday December 13, 2020 @02:47AM (#25405009)
Id have to see specific examples as this is pretty vague. And I believe Dorsey said himself that misinformation is not against the Twitter rules (might have an exception for certain topics though). Probably because half the users on the site would be kicked off in a year.

Also think we need to be careful about the term "misinformation" as that can at times mean my opinion vs your opinion. For instance Fauci flipped on masks several times (im not hating on the guy)...but which time was it misinformation and not misinformation? This is exactly why people need to be entitled to their opinions in a free expression form. You can direct the conversation without kicking people off and censoring people. Another example is Twitter completely flopping when censoring the NY Post "misinformation" which turned out to be undeniably true.

Re:Twitter says it 'inadvertently' limited engagements on Tr... by redis_mlc on Sunday December 13, 2020 @04:21AM (#25405321)
I just read the Wikipedia Twitter suspension list. It's alarming - many of the reasons for the suspensions were false, if not absurd, and those suspensions should never have happened in the first place.

It's like snowflakes run amok at a major media platform.