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Re:Red Hat Goes Full IBM and Says Farewell to CentOS by Macha on Saturday December 12, 2020 @02:51PM (#25401026)
CentOS was certainly a major distro and now we're involved with drama for it.
Re:Red Hat Goes Full IBM and Says Farewell to CentOS by pessimizer on Saturday December 12, 2020 @04:16PM (#25401787)
CentOS has been around for a decade and a half. It hardly qualifies as drama when your OS fails to remain completely stable and dependable for more than a decade and a half.

With the number of changes that have happened with Apple's, Microsoft's and Google's various OSes over that period it's hard to say that GNU/Linux isn't being held to a higher standard here. CentOS being the trademark-stripped knockoff of a corporate OS is the reason for the instability - when you deal in corporate OSes, you're subject to the business strategies of their sponsors. Some would say (weasel words) that the strategies of the sponsor of CentOS have been the source of instability and conflict across Linuxen for a long time now.

Re:Red Hat Goes Full IBM and Says Farewell to CentOS by BossingAround on Saturday December 12, 2020 @04:21PM (#25401821)
> It hardly qualifies as drama when your OS fails to remain completely stable and dependable for more than a decade and a half

Isn't stability and dependability the precise reason of CentOS popularity? Do you have any source on it not being stable and/or dependable?

Re:Red Hat Goes Full IBM and Says Farewell to CentOS by FlyMoreRockets on Saturday December 12, 2020 @06:47PM (#25402897)
You're not wrong. I've maintained a mission critical CentOS server for the better part of a decade and it has been quite stable and dependable, despite their embrace of systemd which broke stuff the system required. I think I only had to do a manual reboot three times during that point, which is good, because it is on a remote mountaintop with access to the range controlled by armed guards.

Still, you seem to be missing the larger point. Suddenly, CentOS is dead. Maybe I'm an outlier, but that seems like a disruption in its stability and dependability.

Re:Red Hat Goes Full IBM and Says Farewell to CentOS by BossingAround on Monday December 14, 2020 @09:43AM (#25418082)
Well, I was reacting to:

> [fails to be stable] for more than a decade and a half

CentOS was stable for more than a decade and a half. Whether it continues to be stable or not, that remains to be seen, unless you're an oracle :)

Re:Red Hat Goes Full IBM and Says Farewell to CentOS by chefkoch on Saturday December 12, 2020 @02:57PM (#25401077)
Just check back in three months and there will be a drop in replacement for CentOS. No need to follow the news now every day, it's not an election.
Re:Red Hat Goes Full IBM and Says Farewell to CentOS by EwanToo on Saturday December 12, 2020 @07:50PM (#25403272)
Oracle already offers one, depending on your level of trust (or distrust) in future support from them

https://linux.oracle.com/switch/centos/

Re:Red Hat Goes Full IBM and Says Farewell to CentOS by ss2003 on Saturday December 12, 2020 @08:04PM (#25403343)
There are many great reasons not to trust Oracle.
Re:Red Hat Goes Full IBM and Says Farewell to CentOS by FlyMoreRockets on Saturday December 12, 2020 @06:52PM (#25402922)
If it is so easy to create a drop in replacement, why can't CentOS continue as usual?
Re:Red Hat Goes Full IBM and Says Farewell to CentOS by andyjpb on Saturday December 12, 2020 @07:29PM (#25403147)
Reading between the lines, I assume that it's because Red Hat / IBM own that trademark and they've decided to stop using it for that project.

In principle, there's no reason why another-CentOS couldn't come about in the same way as CentOS came about originally.

...but now that CentOS has been professionally funded for so long, the bar is higher than it used to be.

Re:Red Hat Goes Full IBM and Says Farewell to CentOS by paulryanrogers on Saturday December 12, 2020 @08:27PM (#25403458)
Actually there is still Springdale Linux and soon to be Rocky Linux, from a CentOS founder.