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Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by gitweb on Saturday December 12, 2020 @10:32AM (#25398820)
Good, can't wait until he gets banned. He is trying to instigate a civil war.
Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by barbacoa on Saturday December 12, 2020 @11:05AM (#25399064)
I'm not trying to start a flame war here. Please don't decline into partisan bickering.

What I took away from reading the texas lawsuit is that what you had happen was states were making changes to their election practices due to covid without actually changing the laws. Think how divisive things like voter ID laws are and it's not hard to imagine no election rule changes are going to get passed in a hurry.

Specific examples are pennsylvania allowing absentee ballot 3 days after the election even though by law any ballots arriving by mail after election day are void.

Poll watchers who monitor votes being counted were not given meaningful access to monitor even though by law they must be given access.

Due to the huge number of absentee ballots election counters did not verify ballot signatures as required.

The reason all these lawsuits failed is because there is no real injunctive relief you can seek. And no court is going to nullify an election.

None of these things are evidence of voter fraud but the fact that election officials were allowed to deviate from the legal requirements dictated by law is something I find controversial and is something we should be allowed to talk about.

Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by NearAP on Saturday December 12, 2020 @11:16AM (#25399184)
A) >>>Specific examples are pennsylvania allowing absentee ballot 3 days after the election even though by law any ballots arriving by mail after election day are void.<<<<

That is incorrect. PA Supreme Court ruled that there is no specific law against that ...Pennsylvania Republicans had sought to block the counting of late-arriving ballots, which the state's Supreme Court had approved last month..... [1]

B) >>>poll watchers who monitor votes being counted were not given meaningful access to monitor even though by law they must be given access.<<<

That is also incorrect. The dispute was about how far away they should be. Both Democratic and Republican observers were at the same distance which was at least 6 feet because of COVID. One of the Judges allowed for the distance to be narrowed for everybody

C) >>>Due to the huge number of absentee ballots election counters did not verify ballot signatures as required.<<<

That is also incorrect. Where state law mandated it, this was done.

D) >>>The reason all these lawsuits failed is because there is no real injunctive relief you can seek. <<<<

This is incorrect. The lawsuits failed because

a) the lawyers actually stated in court that they were not alleging fraud but were 'concerned'

b) the lawyers said in court that there were some irregularities but not enough to change the outcome

1. https://www.npr.org/2020/10/19/922411176/supreme-court-rules...

Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by barbacoa on Saturday December 12, 2020 @11:50AM (#25399527)
There are a lot of assertions there in need of citation.

I get the appeal of getting sucked into partisanship. Your comment reads like someone who has a conclusion and is searching for evidence.

Specifically to your claim about Pennsylvania mail in ballots see below.

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/li/uconsCheck.cfm...

Act 77 of Pennsylvania law:

"a completed mail-in ballot must be received in the office of the county board of elections no later than eight o'clock P.M. on the day of the primary or election."

Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by SpicyLemonZest on Saturday December 12, 2020 @11:14AM (#25399154)
That’s a reasonable analysis. It’s very different from Trump’s claims on social media - he says that these facts are evidence of voter fraud, that any honest court would nullify the election, and that he still hopes to find a way to overturn the election result. If the discussion were just about improving the system for future elections I’d be all in favor of allowing it.
Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by gameswithgo on Saturday December 12, 2020 @10:46AM (#25398920)
don't know why post above is being downvoted, trump absolutely has been acting in a way to instigate civil war.
Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by edgyquant on Saturday December 12, 2020 @10:51AM (#25398962)
There are quite a few pro-Trump users here and a lot of users that dislike politics. The former seem to only come out to defend him and the latter downvote all political discussions. At least in my experience.
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Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by ineedasername on Saturday December 12, 2020 @10:39AM (#25398858)
The 781% claim is another of those easily refuted that falls apart on scrutiny:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.detroitnews.com/amp/3824210...

Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by kaszanka on Saturday December 12, 2020 @11:07AM (#25399093)
Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by malnourish on Saturday December 12, 2020 @11:11AM (#25399122)
Is there an easy way to de-AMP?
Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by kaszanka on Saturday December 12, 2020 @11:25AM (#25399273)
I just curl -vvvvv'd it and checked where the 302 redirect went.
Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by fortran77 on Saturday December 12, 2020 @11:11AM (#25399124)
What’s incredible is that people presented themselves as “witnesses” and stated, under oath, stories that they just read on some random blog and not events they witnessed personally.

You would have thought the lawyers who prepped them would have stopped them from wasting the courts' time.

Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by dafoex on Saturday December 12, 2020 @11:41AM (#25399446)
This is part of the reason that in some countries it is illegal report anything significant about an active investigation. You don't want to pollute the witness pool - even if what is reported is 100% categorically true, the fact that someone might know something they otherwise wouldn't have known is bad for an accurate and just investigation.
Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by cyberlurker on Saturday December 12, 2020 @10:37AM (#25398845)
Source please and maybe population increase would explain that.
Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by kpmah on Saturday December 12, 2020 @10:39AM (#25398863)
If it is so obvious, why are all the legal challenges, even the ones involving Trump-appointed judges, failing? Why can't the challengers come up with a scrap of evidence?
Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by paustint on Saturday December 12, 2020 @10:38AM (#25398856)
Sources?
Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by fortran77 on Saturday December 12, 2020 @10:38AM (#25398854)
That's a fantastic claim!

What county has a score for Biden at "781%"? I'd love to read more about that. Was there a lawsuit filed where I can read about this claim in some official form?

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Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by recursive on Saturday December 12, 2020 @10:42AM (#25398893)
If there was a chance they really believed it, and that very belief had a chance to destabilize the country, I'd take it very seriously.
Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by fortran77 on Saturday December 12, 2020 @10:46AM (#25398922)
No, but I'd be polite to them and ask them how they know that. Like I just did. Maybe you can learn something from that.
Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by tt433 on Saturday December 12, 2020 @11:38AM (#25399402)
Donald Trump himself wasn't a politically viable candidate until people took his transparently bad faith, virulently racist birther lies in good faith. Have we learned nothing?
Re:Twitter limits users interacting with Trump's tweets abou... by RedShift1 on Saturday December 12, 2020 @10:45AM (#25398909)
Wait the moon is not made of cheese? Where does cheese come from? Why did we go to the moon then?