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Re:The YouTube ban is un-American, wrong, and will backfire by disgruntledphd2 on Saturday December 12, 2020 @05:42AM (#25397373)
If you think that this isn't censorship, then I strongly encourage you to read Manufacturing Consent.
Re:The YouTube ban is un-American, wrong, and will backfire by rbanffy on Saturday December 12, 2020 @07:19AM (#25397790)
There is a difference between for-profit content and free speech.
Re:The YouTube ban is un-American, wrong, and will backfire by disgruntledphd2 on Saturday December 12, 2020 @09:48AM (#25398521)
Sorry, I'm not sure how this is a reply to my comment. Can you clarify?
Re:The YouTube ban is un-American, wrong, and will backfire by rbanffy on Saturday December 12, 2020 @10:47AM (#25398928)
The right to say something is not to be confused with the right to be paid to say something.

In fact, monetization creates a perverse incentive to prioritize financial gain over informing the public.

Re:The YouTube ban is un-American, wrong, and will backfire by disgruntledphd2 on Saturday December 12, 2020 @12:35PM (#25399943)
So, the central point (or one of them, at least) of Manufacturing Consent is that news/media organisations are shaped by what advertisers desire, such that the reporting is mostly friendly to a capitalistic worldview.

This is 100% analogous to what Google are doing with respect to demonetising youtube videos, and troubling for exactly the same reasons.

Re:The YouTube ban is un-American, wrong, and will backfire by rbanffy on Saturday December 12, 2020 @07:29PM (#25403148)
Isn't it troubling that the videos are not created to inform, but to keep the audience paying for them?
Re:The YouTube ban is un-American, wrong, and will backfire by disgruntledphd2 on Sunday December 13, 2020 @04:32AM (#25405370)
Yeah of course. But I'm not sure what else one would expect, given our societal structure.
Re:The YouTube ban is un-American, wrong, and will backfire by rbanffy on Sunday December 13, 2020 @09:02AM (#25406595)
If we can remove one perverse incentive at a time, it's still progress, but i agree that, without punishment for misinforming the public, and it's delicate to draw lines there, the problem won't go away.