You should not be flagged for this.

Regardless of the validity* of many of the claims it is certainly relevant to the topic.

* And there are few debunked ones.

Thanks for posting. Fascinating. I’m glad youtube prevented me from seeing this earlier.

Meh, I'm not impressed. Of the dozen or so sources I looked at, half them are links to articles on right-leaning news sites or tweets parroting speech from Trump lawyers, with no links to primary documents. This isn't evidence.

One source was a video of election workers moving boxes around, with a conspiratorial narrative overlaid. This isn't evidence.

Several tweets showing "voting spikes" in favor of Biden as a result of regular counting operations. Nothing wrong here.

The remaining sources discuss "irregularities of expectation", yet none provide any plausible narrative of wrongdoing. The most plausible explanation is that it Democrat-favored voting methods were more streamlined, reliable, and less contested this year compared to years previous. Obviously this nets more votes for Democrats, but nothing practical is stopping a Republican from voting by mail, either. Also, I wouldn't be shocked if the 2020 election was actually more fair than in previous years, due to a large decrease in wrongfully-rejected ballots. I wouldn't be surprised if more Democratic votes were thrown away wrongfully in 2016 than fraudulent Democratic votes were accepted in 2020. If you're concerned about the legitimacy and fairness of U.S. elections, you can't talk about voter fraud while ignoring historical voter disenfranchisement. If someone thinks that mail-in voting was too easy this year, then their gripe is with the judicial systems that permitted this year's election rules.

Conclusion: The linked website doesn't seem to have very high standards of verification, as most items are obviously flimsy or easily debunkable.

was this presented in court?

what were the courts' findings?

"The courts have shot down the the lawsuits on procedural grounds without looking at the evidence."

This is basically not a true statement. You can see for yourself here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related...

Here's one example. It clearly wasn't decided on procedural grounds.

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Judge Matthew W. Brann dismissed the case with prejudice on November 21, citing "strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations," noting that "[i]n the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state ... [o]ur people, laws and institutions demand more". He likened the Trump team argument to "Frankenstein's Monster", and characterized the requested remedy to disqualify nearly seven million votes as "unhinged from the underlying right being asserted."

Maybe procedural grounds was the wrong word but this is a good example of what I meant. "I don't want to see the evidence that may disqualify votes because it will disqualify other votes." is basically the logic. It seems weird to me but I'm not a lawyer so I could be wrong and this is perfectly normal ruling from a judge.

Did you just create the new accounts "prucomaclu2" and "prucomaclu3" because your original account "prucomaclu" had too much negative karma?

https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=prucomaclu

https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=prucomaclu2

https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=prucomaclu3

Are you trying to fraudulently overturn the results of the free and fair election that your comments should be downvoted because they don't contribute to the discussion and violate the guidelines?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

>Throwaway accounts are ok for sensitive information, but please don't create accounts routinely. HN is a community—users should have an identity that others can relate to.

Are you going to keep creating new accounts every time you get so much negative karma you can't post any more, as many times as Trump and the GOP have lost lawsuits trying to overturn the election, until you're at "prucomaclu50"?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/12/08/trump-a...

>Trump And The GOP Have Now Lost More Than 50 Post-Election Lawsuits

>The Trump campaign and its Republican allies have officially lost or withdrawn more 50 post-election lawsuits, and emerged victorious in only one, according to a tally kept by Democratic Party attorney Marc Elias, underscoring the extent to which President Donald Trump and the GOP’s efforts to challenge President-elect Joe Biden’s win in the courts has overwhelmingly failed to affect the election results.

>The 50-case milestone was reached Tuesday as a state court in Georgia dismissed a Republican-led lawsuit, and the count includes both cases that courts have struck down and that the GOP plaintiffs have chosen to withdraw, such as an Arizona lawsuit that the Trump campaign backed down from because it would not affect enough ballots to change the election outcome.

>The Trump campaign and GOP’s only win struck down an extended deadline the Pennsylvania secretary of state set for voters to cure mail-in ballots that were missing proof of identification, and likely only affected a small number of mail-in ballots.

>Among the Trump campaign’s more notable losses in court thus far are the campaign’s failed lawsuit attempting to overturn Pennsylvania’s election results, which a Trump-appointed appeals court judge said was “light on facts” and “[had] no merit,” and a Nevada court that found the campaign had “no credible or reliable evidence” proving voter fraud.

>Courts have also repeatedly struck down the campaign’s allegations claiming their election observers were not able to properly observe the vote counting process, and while one Pennsylvania court did grant the campaign a win by ordering that poll watchers can move closer to election workers, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court later overturned the ruling.

>In addition to the Trump campaign, GOP allies including state lawmakers, Republican Party officials and former Trump legal advisor Sidney Powell have also brought dozens of entirely unsuccessful lawsuits, and a lawsuit brought by Pennsylvania GOP lawmakers was rejected Tuesday by the U.S. Supreme Court.

>The legal campaign is expected to continue until the Electoral College meets on Dec. 14—or potentially until January—but a “safe harbor” deadline midnight Tuesday, which ensures certified results submitted by that date can’t be challenged by Congress, will make it harder for outstanding cases to succeed.

Your reply was probably flagged because it had only a link. Generally people expect some content to go with a link.

I also doubt most people on HN have the patience to wait for that site to load. It took like a minute.

And of course it's pro-Trump, but I'm sure that's only a small reason why it was flagged.

(Odd thing, I posted a comment to you earlier and it's not visible except when I am logged in. Hopefully at least you saw it.)

I did see it but it was also flagged so I couldn't reply. The thing about those affidavits, multiple people said the same thing about different polling places which makes it more believable in my eyes than if it was just one person for each allegation. I do think there was fraud, I'm sure there is even some amount of fraud every election. The real question should be, was the fraud widespread and did it make a difference? I don't know but the fact that people can't even debate this is concerning to me.

Stop creating alternative accounts. It's against the rules, and there's a very good reason you're being downvoted.

Did you just create the new accounts "prucomaclu2" and "prucomaclu3" because your original account "prucomaclu" had too much negative karma?

https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=prucomaclu

https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=prucomaclu2

https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=prucomaclu3

Are you trying to fraudulently overturn the results of the free and fair election that your comments should be downvoted because they don't contribute to the discussion and violate the guidelines?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

>Throwaway accounts are ok for sensitive information, but please don't create accounts routinely. HN is a community—users should have an identity that others can relate to.

Are you going to keep creating new accounts every time you get so much negative karma you can't post any more, as many times as Trump and the GOP have lost lawsuits trying to overturn the election, until you're at "prucomaclu50"?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/12/08/trump-a...

>Trump And The GOP Have Now Lost More Than 50 Post-Election Lawsuits

>The Trump campaign and its Republican allies have officially lost or withdrawn more 50 post-election lawsuits, and emerged victorious in only one, according to a tally kept by Democratic Party attorney Marc Elias, underscoring the extent to which President Donald Trump and the GOP’s efforts to challenge President-elect Joe Biden’s win in the courts has overwhelmingly failed to affect the election results.

>The 50-case milestone was reached Tuesday as a state court in Georgia dismissed a Republican-led lawsuit, and the count includes both cases that courts have struck down and that the GOP plaintiffs have chosen to withdraw, such as an Arizona lawsuit that the Trump campaign backed down from because it would not affect enough ballots to change the election outcome.

>The Trump campaign and GOP’s only win struck down an extended deadline the Pennsylvania secretary of state set for voters to cure mail-in ballots that were missing proof of identification, and likely only affected a small number of mail-in ballots.

>Among the Trump campaign’s more notable losses in court thus far are the campaign’s failed lawsuit attempting to overturn Pennsylvania’s election results, which a Trump-appointed appeals court judge said was “light on facts” and “[had] no merit,” and a Nevada court that found the campaign had “no credible or reliable evidence” proving voter fraud.

>Courts have also repeatedly struck down the campaign’s allegations claiming their election observers were not able to properly observe the vote counting process, and while one Pennsylvania court did grant the campaign a win by ordering that poll watchers can move closer to election workers, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court later overturned the ruling.

>In addition to the Trump campaign, GOP allies including state lawmakers, Republican Party officials and former Trump legal advisor Sidney Powell have also brought dozens of entirely unsuccessful lawsuits, and a lawsuit brought by Pennsylvania GOP lawmakers was rejected Tuesday by the U.S. Supreme Court.

>The legal campaign is expected to continue until the Electoral College meets on Dec. 14—or potentially until January—but a “safe harbor” deadline midnight Tuesday, which ensures certified results submitted by that date can’t be challenged by Congress, will make it harder for outstanding cases to succeed.