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Re:Twitch bans Confederate flag, racist emote usage in new c... by prepend on Friday December 11, 2020 @09:02AM (#25385823)
> Twitch does not represent the US government. It's just a private entity doing business in the USA.

This is funny. Do you think someone confused Twitch with the US government? Do you think only the government should be concerned with free speech? Do you think corporate censorship isn’t important?

I see comments like yours frequently and get confused. Of course government censorship is more dangerous than corporate censorship. But saying that Twitch isn’t government is like responding to BLM with “well, technically all lives matter.” Of course it is true, but not really relevant.

The issue here is that Twitch doesn’t seem to respect free speech and build it into their services. Legally, they are allowed to do this. Ethically, that’s bad. Ethically, companies not supporting and building and fostering free speech leads us to some sort of Disney hellscape where all video calls must include smiles or people get booted, etc etc

Slippery slope hyperbole aside, I think it seems pretty fundamental to me that private communication platforms for the general public need to have free speech as an ideal and apply restrictions carefully. Making blanket band without considering context seems like it will make the experience less useful for communication.

That being said, I’m surprised there was even a confederate flag emoji ever available and surprised took this long to remove.

Re:Twitch bans Confederate flag, racist emote usage in new c... by gameswithgo on Friday December 11, 2020 @09:09AM (#25385901)
you can watch how parler evolves compared to other platforms that do not uphold your ideals, and see how it goes. maybe you are new to the internet, those who have been here a while have seen a lot of online forums without any moderation and seen what they turn into. it was never good.
Re:Twitch bans Confederate flag, racist emote usage in new c... by chewmieser on Friday December 11, 2020 @09:11AM (#25385941)
And it's already banning specific content. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parler#Content_and_moderation
Re:Twitch bans Confederate flag, racist emote usage in new c... by chewmieser on Friday December 11, 2020 @09:03AM (#25385835)
Did you see the second part of my comment?

> Completely free speech has never existed on internet platforms

Re:Twitch bans Confederate flag, racist emote usage in new c... by prepend on Friday December 11, 2020 @08:09PM (#25394116)
I read your whole comment and I’m not calling for completely free speech like yelling “fire” in a theater.

I just find it odd that you brought up government like it’s relevant to free speech and censorship by corporations. I’m genuinely curious as to maybe you think corporations censoring speech is appropriate. And I like this forum to be able to ask.

In my mind, I don’t want the phone company bleeping me out when I curse. Or disconnecting my service because they think I might be buying drugs. Phone companies are regulated by government to legally require these kinds of free speech requirements. But that doesn’t mean I can crank call people, or spam people, there’s still rules.

I think my problem with these companies is that they are arbitrary in their restrictions. And they seem biased politically.

Perhaps they aren’t biased. But similarly, while being required to show ID to vote may seem reasonable, in practice it discriminated against certain political parties.

Re:Twitch bans Confederate flag, racist emote usage in new c... by verroq on Friday December 11, 2020 @09:09AM (#25385904)
Ah but it didn’t used to be like this.
Re:Twitch bans Confederate flag, racist emote usage in new c... by bdcravens on Friday December 11, 2020 @09:22AM (#25386081)
Correct, but how people use the web has changed over time. Content and interaction was also far less centralized. I had to dig for specific channels on IRC to find the kind of hateful discussion I can find in 5 seconds on Twitter. There was far less spam and noise in those days.

Many of us run an ad blocker in our browser. Is this not censorship of certain types of speech?

Re:Twitch bans Confederate flag, racist emote usage in new c... by verroq on Friday December 11, 2020 @12:37PM (#25388342)
I block ads to not be tracked, subjected to malware and unwanted annoyances. I do not block ads to censor speech.
Re:Twitch bans Confederate flag, racist emote usage in new c... by bdcravens on Friday December 11, 2020 @04:53PM (#25391678)
Censorship needn't be the primary motivator for it to occur.
Re:Twitch bans Confederate flag, racist emote usage in new c... by verroq on Saturday December 12, 2020 @03:57AM (#25396863)
It’s not a motivator at all and your argument is invalid. Secondly, hiding things on your own screen is not censorship, hiding things on someone else’s screen is.
Re:Twitch bans Confederate flag, racist emote usage in new c... by bluntfang on Friday December 11, 2020 @09:33AM (#25386204)
>Do you think someone confused Twitch with the US government?

Yes, this is exactly what's happening. Or, maybe the inverse: people think "free speech" means they can say whatever they want without consequences. This is not the letter nor spirit of the law.

Re:Twitch bans Confederate flag, racist emote usage in new c... by kiba on Friday December 11, 2020 @09:17AM (#25386008)
Corporations are already deciding what videos you see, whether you like it or not. They are already censoring.