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Re:MasterCard to stop processing payments on Pornhub, cites ... by standardUser on Thursday December 10, 2020 @04:29PM (#25378982)
Yes, sex work can be "exploitative", "debasing", "soul-sucking" etc. So can all work.

And more importantly, it doesn't have to be any of those negative things. Sex work and pornography can be enjoyable for people on all sides of the equation. The fact that it often isn't is a problem to fix, not a reason to brutally narrow our perspective on what's acceptable in the realm of sex and sexuality.

Re:MasterCard to stop processing payments on Pornhub, cites ... by MrBuddyCasino on Thursday December 10, 2020 @05:45PM (#25379815)
> Sex work and pornography can be enjoyable for people on all sides of the equation.

Yes. This is not the limit of my criticism, far from it. There is a world of difference between sleeping with 15 truckers a night, ie physical prostitution, and a middle-class student selling nudes on OnlyFans. The problems with the middle-class version of prostitution are the second order effects. I briefly touched on those in another reply in this thread.

Re:MasterCard to stop processing payments on Pornhub, cites ... by standardUser on Friday December 11, 2020 @10:07AM (#25386553)
The "difference" you are describing is loaded (LOADED) with your own biases and narrow point of view. There are young students selling nudes online and feeling tremendous shame and grief about it that could cause them significant harm later in life. There are sex workers plowing through 15 truckers every night and considering it a hard night's work, but it's a living! The profound diversity of human experience should never can sometimes be unimaginable, but I encourage you to try and imagine.
Re:MasterCard to stop processing payments on Pornhub, cites ... by MrBuddyCasino on Friday December 11, 2020 @10:57AM (#25387124)
> There are young students selling nudes online and feeling tremendous shame and grief about it that could cause them significant harm later in life.

1. They don't feel "tremendous shame and grief about it", you're just projecting. They wouldn't be doing it in the first place if that was the case, at least for the middle-class ones that I'm talking about.

2. The "significant harm later in life" does not stem from the (imaginary) shame & grief, it comes from the discovery when they inevitably hit The Wall that no high-quality mate wants to marry them, and that they have tarnished their reputation forever for a short-lived boost in income and attention that is guaranteed to fade one day. The progressive culture and their friends will tell them about "sex positivity" and that prostitution is just "sex work" like any other work, which it isn't. You will not agree to that of course, "I don't own her body haha".

If there is one thing to take away, let it be this: look at the people around you and their relationships, and observe what works and what doesn't. Don't theorize, don't moralize, don't judge, just observe and make up your own mind.

Re:MasterCard to stop processing payments on Pornhub, cites ... by standardUser on Friday December 11, 2020 @11:22AM (#25387442)
I was using hypotheticals to make a point, pedant.
Re:MasterCard to stop processing payments on Pornhub, cites ... by MrBuddyCasino on Saturday December 12, 2020 @07:51AM (#25397932)
How does one make a point with made-up hypotheticals?