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Re:The Future of Clojure by ashtonkem on Thursday December 10, 2020 @11:03AM (#25375126)
It’s really hard to argue that Java projects fail at unusual rates, given how much stuff runs on Java.
Re:The Future of Clojure by humourl3ss on Sunday December 13, 2020 @09:41AM (#25406849)
There is a bit of survivorship bias there, I've seen a lot of Java projects fail, but the blame is only partly on the language, really its the fact that there are so many developers, and the pareto distribution of good to bad java programmers. That and business do not know what the f*ck they are doing. I've seen really good java devs at work, the software they produce is amazing, but the code and structure is incomprehensible, they are masters and I am a mere mortal. Clojure on the other-hand is simpler, higher level, more expressive, but you can still shoot your foot, just like java.
Re:The Future of Clojure by dustingetz on Thursday December 10, 2020 @11:17AM (#25375260)
you cannot measure anything at all about failure rates by looking at successes
Re:The Future of Clojure by jimbokun on Thursday December 10, 2020 @05:56PM (#25379942)
But are the rates for Clojure failures more or less than Java?
Re:The Future of Clojure by lmilcin on Thursday December 10, 2020 @07:08PM (#25380590)
It is unlikely you will find apples to apples comparison.

What if Clojure projects are more risky by selection bias?

Re:The Future of Clojure by rienbdj on Thursday December 10, 2020 @11:14AM (#25375233)
Maybe not at unusual rates, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the rates are high.
Re:The Future of Clojure by pbourke on Thursday December 10, 2020 @05:26PM (#25379641)
When you measure the failure rates of Java projects against the failure rates of Clojure projects, you’re not measuring the failure rates of a language, but rather the general failure rate of software in industry vs the failure rate for a (likely) small, motivated team.
Re:The Future of Clojure by ashtonkem on Friday December 11, 2020 @01:48AM (#25383100)
Higher than average? That's very much a [citation needed] moment if I've ever seen one.