Longbets: A bioerror will lead to one million casualties by Dec 2020

Re:Longbets: A bioerror will lead to one million casualties ... by zimpenfish on Thursday December 10, 2020 @04:18AM (#25371576)

> Also you need citations for you claim that it would have been possible to stop the spread.

There's plenty of countries who stopped the spread early on. With a concerted, worldwide, coherent effort, we could have done much better and, likely, have stopped the spread months ago.

Unfortunately, this all breaks down in the face of rogue states like the US.

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Re:Longbets: A bioerror will lead to one million casualties ... by timeeater on Thursday December 10, 2020 @05:37AM (#25372185)

There are only some islands who are in the position to effectively restrict travel, and totalitarian states whose numbers can't be trusted.

Infection rates vary by countries, but a lot of it is driven by hotspot outbreaks . And some who seemed to be doing good at first are suddenly getting their hotspot outbreaks at later points.

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Re:Longbets: A bioerror will lead to one million casualties ... by garmaine on Thursday December 10, 2020 @06:04AM (#25372383)

Any nation is effectively an island if they close their borders.

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Re:Longbets: A bioerror will lead to one million casualties ... by timeeater on Thursday December 10, 2020 @06:41AM (#25372596)

So you are saying Trump should have closed the borders, a proposal he was heavily attacked for?

Anyway, it is more difficult for non-island countries and bigger countries with more global ties.

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Re:Longbets: A bioerror will lead to one million casualties ... by zimpenfish on Thursday December 10, 2020 @08:12PM (#25381099)

> Trump should have closed the borders, a proposal he was heavily attacked for?

A temporary closure in the face of a pandemic is somewhat different than closing them based on his rather colourful view of immigrants.

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Re:Longbets: A bioerror will lead to one million casualties ... by timeeater on Friday December 11, 2020 @03:20AM (#25383568)

Those were different incidents, iirc he proposed shutting down travel when news about Covid came from China.

The other "closing of the borders" is about immigration laws. I'm not from the US, but I never understood the anti-Trump position there. Surely, if you have immigration laws, you should try to uphold them. You can criticize the laws and try to change them, but criticizing attempts to uphold the laws makes no sense.

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