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Re:Law Enforcement Is Accessing Locked Devices by abstractbarista on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @01:35PM (#25362118)
Seems to be a common thread - if you want your phone to remain secure, it must be powered off before seizure. This way, there is no encryption key in RAM. As long as the key is sufficiently strong (random passphrase, not a 4-digit PIN), you have a reasonable guarantee that they will fail to crack it.
Re:Law Enforcement Is Accessing Locked Devices by m463 on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @03:52PM (#25364746)
What about the iphone POWER+VOLDOWN thing that flushes the biometric keys and requires the pin?
Re:Law Enforcement Is Accessing Locked Devices by chenxiaolong on Friday December 11, 2020 @02:05PM (#25389381)
Looking at the iOS platform security document ([0] page 68), apps use NSFileProtectionCompleteUntilFirstUserAuthentication by default, which keeps keys in memory after the first unlock, regardless of the Power + Volume Down lock. If an app opts into NSFileProtectionComplete, I believe the keys are purged from memory upon locking.

[0] https://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/1000/MA1902/en_US/app...

Re:Law Enforcement Is Accessing Locked Devices by angry_octet on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @03:46PM (#25364645)
More obscure phones might not have support, but that doesn't mean they can't be opened with more effort.

When off, you're relying on the strength of the FDE passphrase and whatever key strengthening they implemented, and that the OS didn't leave some key fragments somewhere (accidentally on flash, which would be very bad, or remanent in memory if it has only been off for a short period).

Using a long alphanumeric (>12 random, >20 passphrase), not installing random apps, keeping it patched and keeping it powered down is probably the best you can do. I wouldn't use the baseband comms if I could avoid it, just a huge 4G attack surface.

Re:Law Enforcement Is Accessing Locked Devices by Forbo on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @05:46PM (#25366405)
Android has a 16 character limit for your password. Or at least it did as of Android 10, not sure if that's changed.
Re:Law Enforcement Is Accessing Locked Devices by marcan_42 on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @11:20PM (#25369661)
If you root your phone, you can set your FDE passphrase to whatever you want while keeping a usable shorter unlock code. My phone's FDE passphrase is 26 characters long.
Re:Law Enforcement Is Accessing Locked Devices by ActorNightly on Thursday December 10, 2020 @03:23AM (#25371219)
Even better, if you have a reasonable worry about losing control of your phone with data that is on there, you should just get a second one that contains nothing sensitive or personally identifiable, uses wifi only, no sim.

This is even good practice if you go to public places where you can get your phone stolen.