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Re:Expanding Fuchsia's open source model by abarth on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @12:59PM (#25348970)
As a principal software engineer that works on Fuchsia, I can assure you that the project does not exist solely to retain me. :)
Re:Expanding Fuchsia's open source model by raphlinus on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @01:58PM (#25349815)
Congrats on the promo! It didn't quite retain me either, but I was a lowly staff software engineer. I am returning to Google though (back to the Google Fonts team), and it's entirely possible we'll get a chance to work together again.
Re:Expanding Fuchsia's open source model by dewitt on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @02:47PM (#25350376)
Yay! Welcome back!
Re:Expanding Fuchsia's open source model by abarth on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @02:10PM (#25349945)
I look forward to it!
Re:Expanding Fuchsia's open source model by swetland on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @01:36PM (#25349515)
Congrats on the promo! It didn't retain me (though I didn't get promoted to Principal, so maybe I don't count) but I did enjoy working on Fuchsia. Nice to see much of the syscall design seems to have survived.
Re:Expanding Fuchsia's open source model by abarth on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @01:39PM (#25349548)
Thanks! Yes, your ideas are alive and well in the project.
Re:Expanding Fuchsia's open source model by suchire on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @01:30PM (#25349408)
Not solely, but in part? ;-)
Re:Expanding Fuchsia's open source model by baybal2 on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @02:07PM (#25349909)
Adam, how much were you involved in drafting this manifest?
Re:Expanding Fuchsia's open source model by abarth on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @02:13PM (#25349969)
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean by "this manifest." The blog post linked above was written by Wayne Piekarski, who is a Developer Advocate for Fuchsia. My role in the project is as a software engineer.
Re:Expanding Fuchsia's open source model by asadawadia on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @02:53PM (#25350461)
What was your journey to principal?
Re:Expanding Fuchsia's open source model by jacobush on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @01:03PM (#25349043)
... but also your colleagues?
Re:Expanding Fuchsia's open source model by wmf on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @01:45PM (#25349634)
Since you're here, "abarth", it took me several clicks to get to the OWNERS file and all I saw was a list of email addresses. Calling that "governance" is... could we at least get some names and maybe brief bios on these people?
Re:Expanding Fuchsia's open source model by evil-olive on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @02:58PM (#25350530)
The OWNERS file is typically used, sometimes by automated tooling, to answer the "who should I ask to code review these changes?" question.

https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/docs/c...

https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/github/creat...

https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/code_owners.html

It's not meant to be a place for developer bios. If for no other reason than one developer could appear in many OWNERS files scattered throughout a repo, or in multiple repos, and keeping the bio current across all of them would be a nightmare.

Re:Expanding Fuchsia's open source model by wmf on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @03:45PM (#25351115)
Let me add some context. I was looking at the governance links on the site and found https://fuchsia.dev/fuchsia-src/contribute/governance/eng_co... which at the bottom simply says "The current members of the Fuchsia Eng Council are listed in this OWNERS file." I think it would improve the transparency/accountability of the project to have more than a list of email addresses here.
Re:Expanding Fuchsia's open source model by asadlionpk on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @01:22AM (#25355896)
Probably not in the OWNERS file though, as it’s a machine-consumable file, heavy used inside and outside google for automation.
Re:Expanding Fuchsia's open source model by abarth on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @01:56PM (#25349785)
I understand where you're coming from, but that ends up being an inclusion issue in the project. I'm comfortable having my name and bio "out there" on the Internet, but I recognize that's a privilege. Not everyone who contributes to the project will be comfortable doing that.
Re:Expanding Fuchsia's open source model by gowld on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @05:27PM (#25352310)
The Eng Council is 5 people in a position of governance, not everyone who contributes.
Re:Expanding Fuchsia's open source model by abarth on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @05:44PM (#25352538)
Ah, I didn't realize the comment above was about the Eng Council. I'll raise the issue at our next meeting. Thanks!