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Re:Improving DNS Privacy with Oblivious DoH by seek3r on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @08:04AM (#25344546)
I’m good with the Apple’s privacy-oriented stance. But I can’t stop to think what will happen when advertisers knock on Apple’s door trying to get their hands on the users’ data that one else can access. Is Apple going to sell it out for more profits?
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Re:Improving DNS Privacy with Oblivious DoH by MrStonedOne on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @08:49AM (#25344965)
The whole design of this DNS system would mean that even if apple ran a ODOH proxy, they still wouldn't be able to see what the request was for.

What data can apple give them?

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Re:Improving DNS Privacy with Oblivious DoH by nojito on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @08:44AM (#25344884)
Apple almost never bends over for advertisers. The closest they have done is pushing a privacy change launch date further down the line.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/9/3/21420176/apple-ios-14-trac...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/12/08/advertiser...

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Re:Improving DNS Privacy with Oblivious DoH by techelite on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @08:10AM (#25344591)
It's just marketing. Apple has already shown they will sell you out with PRISM.

Who knows what other backroom deals are happening outside our knowledge. The only reason we found out about PRISM is because the gigantic scale and Snowden sacrificed Everything to let it be known.

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Re:Improving DNS Privacy with Oblivious DoH by saberience on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @08:14AM (#25344621)
I think there's a big difference between selling data for profit and the government literally forcing you to give up data based on national security laws or else forcing you to close your business. There's almost nothing Apple can do about the latter case (or any other company for that matter).
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Re:Improving DNS Privacy with Oblivious DoH by techelite on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @08:28AM (#25344730)
Didn't twitter survive?

Also how would we know if Apple is working with other companies? It's not like they are known to be transparent or Truthful.

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Re:Improving DNS Privacy with Oblivious DoH by alwillis on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @11:11AM (#25347126)
Also how would we know if Apple is working with other companies? It's not like they are known to be transparent or Truthful.

Apple puts privacy and security front and center as part of their brand. They zig while everyone else is zaging, trying to make a buck on user data, which they don't do.

For starters, here's their transparency report: https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/

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Re:Improving DNS Privacy with Oblivious DoH by arminiusreturns on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @08:48AM (#25344958)
One thing I like to remind people of is the fact that the Snowden docs that revealed PRISM were years old at the time of Snowden gathering them, and even older at release... just imagine how much further things have progressed in the 10+ years since. (iirc lots of them had 2007 dates on them)
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