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Re:Uber sells self-driving unit in deal that will push Auror... by bo1024 on Monday December 07, 2020 @11:16PM (#25341707)
This doesn't prove that the technology is ready or safe. It only proves that Waymo thinks it's a worthwhile gamble. This is the same place where Uber's self-driving car killed a person with no repercussions to the company.
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Re:Uber sells self-driving unit in deal that will push Auror... by howlgarnish on Monday December 07, 2020 @11:51PM (#25341988)
It's obviously ready and safe enough for Waymo to roll it out (and they've been a lot more conservative than Uber here).

As for safety, all we really need is for them to be safer than the average human driver. As evinced by the ~40,000 road deaths every year in the US, that's really a pretty low bar. I'd even argue that full autonomous is/will be less risky than halfway houses like Tesla Autopilot where neither side is really in full control, but that's another story.

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Re:Uber sells self-driving unit in deal that will push Auror... by woeirua on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @12:28AM (#25342239)
That’s actually a high hurdle to clear. Looking at fatalities per hundreds of thousands of miles driven humans are insanely good at driving. Using the 2018 NHTSA number of 1.13 deaths per 100 million miles driven, avg speed of 60 mph, 20 predictions per second, that equates out to an autonomous system can make a fatal mistake on average about every 120 billion predictions.
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Re:Uber sells self-driving unit in deal that will push Auror... by sitkack on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @01:44AM (#25342586)
You make it sound like every mis-prediction could result in death.
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Re:Uber sells self-driving unit in deal that will push Auror... by nmfisher on Monday December 07, 2020 @11:51PM (#25341982)
"Ready" or "safe" are matters of opinion, though.

It's ready/safe when governments ("the people") decide it's such.

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Re:Uber sells self-driving unit in deal that will push Auror... by berdario on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @02:55AM (#25342982)
The technology is safe:

https://storage.googleapis.com/sdc-prod/v1/safety-report/Way...

They've been very careful about it, and they have not finished work on it, so they need to keep the same standard that they had until now.

The technology is also ready for Phoenix. The company is not yet ready for the whole world (but I have no specific insight into what's holding them back).

It's totally different from Uber.

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