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Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by reddog on Monday December 07, 2020 @06:38PM (#25339325)
>They do indeed live without owning cars. They also use Ubers, ZipCars, and regular rental all the time.

Is there that much of a difference between owning a car and renting a car or using Zip or having a chauffer (Lyft, Uber, taxis) tote you around? I'd get rid of my car too if I could afford to have Uber haul me everywhere.

Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by chao- on Monday December 07, 2020 @06:44PM (#25339367)
>Is there that much of a difference between owning a car...? I'd get rid of my car too if I could afford to have Uber haul me everywhere.

With reference to my sibling comment, definitively yes. I personally spent less on a handful of Lyft rides per month in Houston than I did on insurance alone when I owned a car. Never mind the cost of the vehicle itself, gas, any repairs...

Even adding in the cost of my rail and bus rides, still doesn't come close to the cost of a vehicle.

Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by fomine3 on Monday December 07, 2020 @09:11PM (#25340792)
But SF is one of the most expensive living cost, so I suspect that spending for cars isn't much issue.
Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by joshuamorton on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @01:44AM (#25342583)
Before I sold my car, I spent more on parking (in my apartment) than I did in an average month if ride-sharing.
Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by moonka on Monday December 07, 2020 @09:34PM (#25340974)
>Is there that much of a difference between owning a car and renting a car or using Zip or having a chauffer (Lyft, Uber, taxis) tote you around? I'd get rid of my car too if I could afford to have Uber haul me everywhere.

It's a difference in frequency of use. In Seattle, a lot of my friends don't have cars, but use Rideshare/rentals when they need it. If you are using it a couple times a week, pretty easy to stay under the cost of car ownership when you factor in insurance/parking/maintenance etc.

Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by twblalock on Monday December 07, 2020 @06:48PM (#25339411)
Parking in SF tends to really suck, and at least if you take an Uber you don't need to circle the neighborhood for half an hour to find a spot.
Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by mistersquid on Monday December 07, 2020 @09:30PM (#25340940)
> Is there that much of a difference between owning a car and renting a car or using Zip

The cost of owning a car in California including maintenance, fuel, parking, registration, smog check, etc. can be upwards of $10K per year. At least it was for me when I owned a car.

I walk most places and use car share or rent as necessary. I do not spend $10K per year on car share and rentals.

Literally, YMMV.

Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by ghaff on Monday December 07, 2020 @06:42PM (#25339352)
I guess it still works out for them. They also rent their parking space to someone else. And he rides a bike, etc. And they use public transit. But, yeah, it's dependent on having a number of car options also available.
Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by rightbyte on Monday December 07, 2020 @06:44PM (#25339374)
And use home delivery! You outsourced the car dependency to poor gig workers.