Re:Apple Preps Next Mac Chips with Aim to Outclass Highest-E...
by jeffbee on Monday December 07, 2020 @10:01AM
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Well you’re not totally wrong but the one place where consumers care about raw single threaded performance is the web browser and these new rigs are making huge strides. The M1 browser is remarkably fast and it unlocks new territory in what you can do without bringing the browser to its knees. The new 11th gen Intel laptop part has also opened a big gap between itself and its predecessors and competitors, but it’s not as fast as the M1 and it draws way more power when it’s running. So I think this is an area they still have room to improve and consumers will really notice the benefit of it.
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Re:Apple Preps Next Mac Chips with Aim to Outclass Highest-E...
by Mauricebranagh on Monday December 07, 2020 @10:22AM
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Intel 10th gen to 11th Gen is not really that different
Re:Apple Preps Next Mac Chips with Aim to Outclass Highest-E...
by jeffbee on Monday December 07, 2020 @10:32AM
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In many single threaded benchmarks the 11th gen is 50% faster than the 10th. I think it’s a remarkable bump. The Zen3 has also brought a significant leap in single threaded performance, but not on mobile yet.
Re:Apple Preps Next Mac Chips with Aim to Outclass Highest-E...
by everdrive on Monday December 07, 2020 @11:48AM
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Most consumers don't understand computer "speed," and so any of these speed claims are either 1) marketing, or 2) aimed at enthusiasts who do understand. Most people seem to think that you own a computer for a few years, and then the computer "gets slow," and then it's time to buy a new computer.
Re:Apple Preps Next Mac Chips with Aim to Outclass Highest-E...
by jeffbee on Monday December 07, 2020 @12:04PM
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This kind of condescension isn't helpful. People understand when an app or a site is slow, or doesn't work, compared to when it works well and quickly.
Re:Apple Preps Next Mac Chips with Aim to Outclass Highest-E...
by everdrive on Monday December 07, 2020 @04:07PM
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I legitimately didn't intend to be condescending. In my experience people don't understand that for a computer to be "fast," you have multiple possible bottle-necks: hard drive read/write, CPU, RAM, network bandwidth, etc. My very intelligent father-in-law (I mean this seriously, he's very intelligent, and was a programmer for years.) wanted to boost his internet speed, and upgrade from DSL to cable. (something like 15mbs to 100mbs) Well, he didn't really notice much speed difference. And this was because he was seldom, if ever, saturating his 15mbs link. In fact, on a modern webpage, there are so many new TCP connections that each one can be a bit slow despite bandwidth. (and this is to say nothing of the delay incurred by actually trying to render the js and other elements on the page.)
My point was that most consumers don't understand these things, and just assume that "computer speed" is one-dimensional: it's either fast, or not fast.