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Re:The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and E... by bredren on Sunday December 06, 2020 @11:18PM (#25329290)
I’d add that casual alcohol use being normalized is not necessary or positive.

Alcohol use among high school seniors in the US is on the decline, so is use of any “illicit” drug. [1]

I’m no square, but this should be encouraged.

Young people already deal with stress of fitting in at a high-velocity workplace.

Modeling conspicuous substance consumption at work seems pretty backward to me.

Perhaps the most irresponsible illustration of this is Elon Musk who has made his substance use so overt I think it wrongly and perhaps dangerously couples using to entrepreneurial success.

[1] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/02/26/the-concern...

Re:The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and E... by MrBuddyCasino on Monday December 07, 2020 @04:08AM (#25330525)
> Alcohol use among high school seniors in the US is on the decline, so is use of any “illicit” drug.

Sounds wholesome, but is probably just the symptom of people going out and socializing less, resulting in increased isolation and loneliness.

Re:The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and E... by JacobSuperslav on Monday December 07, 2020 @04:38AM (#25330658)
hard to say. looking at me and my friends - we've got more time to socialize, plenty of friends, yet people drink less, and definitely use less tobacco(it's really unsexy to smoke cigarettes now, and vaping in public is just embarrassing), because we're more health focused. I have to admit I'm a regular user of psychedelics. drugs are decriminalized where I'm from. unless there will be long term consequences, i don't think it impacted me in any bad way, frankly the opposite, albeit "wasting" some time with friends.
Re:The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and E... by bredren on Monday December 07, 2020 @05:18AM (#25330839)
According to Pew, teen alcohol consumption has been in decline since 1997.
Re:The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and E... by PablumPicasso on Monday December 07, 2020 @04:36AM (#25330648)
> Perhaps the most irresponsible illustration of this is Elon Musk who has made his substance use so overt I think it wrongly and perhaps dangerously couples using to entrepreneurial success.

oh come off it, what substance abuse? he toked on a blunt on JRE once (clearly barely inhaled and even then, so what) and has a few bourbons with his brother on yearly retreats? please provide more info about this, because i've never, ever taken musk to be that sort of guy.

Re:The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and E... by bredren on Monday December 07, 2020 @05:14AM (#25330821)
Re:The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and E... by tarsinge on Monday December 07, 2020 @06:53AM (#25331295)
Ah yes a glass of red wine is "substance use", as a French that's a good one.
Re:The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and E... by Pelic4n on Monday December 07, 2020 @07:46AM (#25331605)
From a french to another, a glass of red wine spiced up with benzos absolutely is substance use, and an extremely dangerous kind.
Re:The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and E... by tarsinge on Monday December 07, 2020 @09:52AM (#25332608)
My bad, I read "Ambient" and thought it was the kind of records he listened to...
Re:The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and E... by waihtis on Monday December 07, 2020 @08:46AM (#25332044)
Think the supposed problem here is mixing wine with sleeping pills.
Re:The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and E... by tarsinge on Monday December 07, 2020 @09:54AM (#25332643)
Yeah I missed that part, didn't know about "Ambien" and thought it was "Ambient" music with a typo