Re:How Microsoft crushed Slack
by dheera on Sunday December 06, 2020 @12:12AM
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Is it just me or does anyone else find Microsoft Teams horribly unusable? Every time I try to log in (for a client's project) it wants a goddamn SMS authentication and Slack never had me do that BS. I don't even use SMS and so I have to dig through Twilio API just to log in.
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It has its problems but so does Slack. It seems to be getting better quickly though. I applaud MS for having a Linux client that actually works. The biggest annoyance is that it doesn't remember my phone number when using phone audio for meetings. The UI is a bit confusing at times but I'm getting used to it.
Does it actually work? It seems to crash and freeze my machine for 15 seconds at every startup. It also loves going full screen on my 4K monitor. Spews out 404 errors half the time when I try to log in. Freaking 404 errors! That shouldn't even be a thing.
Works great. I run it on Ubuntu 20.04 in a virtualbox VM running on Ubuntu 20.04 as I keep my work stuff in a VM. Audio and video work fine, although I generally use phone audio because my bluetooth doesn't seem to work in the VM. It works fine on the host OS though. Also, I can use phone audio with the USB webcam on the PC providing the video and it works great.
Re:How Microsoft crushed Slack
by otabdeveloper4 on Sunday December 06, 2020 @01:29AM
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Teams is probably the buggiest software on Earth. A true achievement.
it wants a goddamn SMS authentication
That's a company policy setting and not something inherent to Teams.
Well at least Slack doesn't even offer such stupid policies, so I prefer Slack. I began the deprecation process of SMS around 1999 with the first Blackberry which supported this awesome new thing called e-mail. E-mail is this FANTASTIC new thing that offers more than 140 characters, allows larger attachments. It works just like SMS, except you can receive them even if you change your SIM card while travelling! Your inbox moves with you from provider to provider! How COOL is that!
Seriously, nobody should ever require SMS in 2020. Kill that nonsense.
Well at least Slack doesn't even offer such stupid policies
It does (indirectly) if you use SAML single sign on (which many large corporations do). That is what is happening with Teams. You're not being asked to sign in to Teams itself. You're being asked to identify yourself via Microsoft single sign on and the people that set up that companies Microsoft single sign on have set SMS as the default 2FA.
Whether or not you should use SMS for 2FA is of course a separate discussion.
Re:How Microsoft crushed Slack
by stingraycharles on Sunday December 06, 2020 @12:15AM
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I have multiple office365 accounts and within those accounts, and in a large number of different teams. The UX of switching between these is absolutely terrible.
It supports other 2FA methods too (although it's possible your client has set it to force SMS, maybe that's possible)
AFAIK the default is that it's SMS on first login but you can change it to something else afterwards, which seems quite stupid.
No, never gave it a phone number and have 2FA enforced by the org and active.
I've meant default for org-wide policy. If your org admin is aware of it it can be changed.