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Re:A New Theorem Maps Out the Limits of Quantum Physics by miltondts on Saturday December 05, 2020 @11:44AM (#25315849)
Please read about superdeterminism. Bell's theorem makes three assumptions. One of which has no basis other than "I like it".

EDIT: Also, as Gerard 't Hooft points out[1], if you have a deterministic theory and you don't know the initial state, that is, you feed it probabilities, then you get probabilities on the other end. In this light there is nothing special about the quantum randomness. It's just that you don't know the initial state of the system.

[1]-https://youtu.be/YglT09Korr0?t=2476

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Re:A New Theorem Maps Out the Limits of Quantum Physics by lisper on Saturday December 05, 2020 @12:00PM (#25316061)
> you don't know the initial state of the system

It's not just that you don't know, it's that you cannot know. The initial state includes the state of the wave function, and you can't know that because of the no-cloning theorem.

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