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Re:Billionaires Build by dredmorbius on Friday December 04, 2020 @08:04PM (#25310560)
That would be a more correct view.

In much debate and discussion I see "market value" substituted for "value". Often the implication is a vague one, as withmuch equivocation. pg's argumentventures there.

Keep in mind that Smith, Ricardo, and Marx each commit this error, including in the Smith passage I quoted. So do the Marginalists, or at leaast most of them.

Mariana Mazzucato may be an exception. (I've just discovered her, still going through her work.)

https://www.ted.com/talks/mariana_mazzucato_what_is_economic...

Re:Billionaires Build by UK-Al05 on Friday December 04, 2020 @08:33PM (#25310748)
Separating value and price is 101 of marginal economics.

There couldn't be consumer surplus without it. I don't know how you could be marginalist and believe market price = value for user.

Re:Billionaires Build by naravara on Friday December 04, 2020 @10:50PM (#25311560)
In theory. In practice just about every quantitative method or metric used to measure social welfare or individual well being falls back on price. And since our culture has a fetish for positivism and anything that looks like “math” those are the fixed assumptions that guide our decision making.
Re:Billionaires Build by dredmorbius on Saturday December 05, 2020 @12:07AM (#25311947)
The fundamental principle of marginalism is, er, marginalism: that the derivative of supply or demand functions is what determines market price (not to be confused with "value", though it often is). The marginal cost or value.