Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher
by jeffbee on Friday December 04, 2020 @01:32PM
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OK, but imagine that you are the expert in your field and you have work for this person, who controls your career and compensation, who has a tendency to say that domain experts need to shut up and defer to her.
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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher
by whimsicalism on Friday December 04, 2020 @01:40PM
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If the domain is AI ethics, then Yann is not a domain expert, she is. Indeed, it seems like this exact expansion of Yann's "domain" is what she is frustrated by, and you are playing exactly into it.
> the expert in your field and you have work for this person, who controls your career and compensation
Must be harder when your CEO boss has a tendency to call domain experts pedophiles, yet I see Musk praised frequently here.
Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher
by foogazi on Friday December 04, 2020 @02:23PM
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> Indeed, it seems like this exact expansion of Yann's "domain" is what she is frustrated by, and you are playing exactly into it.
Your description above sounds like gatekeeping to me - not saying that is the researcher’s intent - but it doesn’t seem to make for good science
Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher
by whimsicalism on Friday December 04, 2020 @04:42PM
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I'm not the one saying people who criticize "domain experts" deserve to be fired. I think both are within the realm of discourse and shouldn't be retaliated against.
Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher
by joshuamorton on Friday December 04, 2020 @02:12PM
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I think your sounds ask her actual reports what they think of her management (hint: essentially all of them have said "she's the best manager I've ever had" or the equivalent in the past week).
If you work in an area that is written off, you need a strong advocate, and from everything I've seen, she was that strong advocate both for herself and for those who reported to her.