Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher
by Certhas on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:51PM
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Also, to put the double standard here into context, HN comment threads always had plenty of people defending Linus Torvalds tone.
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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher
by 6gvONxR4sf7o on Friday December 04, 2020 @01:26PM
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And plenty of people attacking him. Every Linus thread has a massive debate about him being an asshole. Just like in this thread there are plenty on each side. Where’s the double standard?
Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher
by whimsicalism on Friday December 04, 2020 @01:53PM
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A quick look through a few of the last Linus threads and there is a lot more "taking his word as gospel" over calling him an asshole:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23739076
Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher
by 6gvONxR4sf7o on Friday December 04, 2020 @02:17PM
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I was thinking threads from before his big "shit, i'm an asshole, sorry. gonna take time off" phase. Maybe I have a selective memory, but I'm remembering threads from those couple years before and after Susan Fowler and Uber's culture implosion. It felt like there was a shift in how the whole industry felt about brilliant assholes around then (thank god).
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18000698
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18083859
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16508921
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8415603
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2372096
I think the threads in articles specifically about Linus are better comparisons to this, rather than articles about computing that involve him. But, hey, folk like Torvalds and Gebru both really rub me the wrong way, so it's reasonable that I might be selectively remembering threads where HN said I'm right and that he's an asshole (and I did a lazy googling of "linus torvalds asshole site:news.ycombinator.com" which is biased too), so who knows.
Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher
by notSupplied on Friday December 04, 2020 @02:16PM
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Communities are not monoliths. Otherwise, it would be incredibly easy to charge any sufficiently large community of blatant hypocrisy.