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Re:“I've had to relearn coding to get through the new interv... by neilv on Friday December 04, 2020 @11:14AM (#25303963)
I really appreciate your candor here.

I've long been opposed to the Leetcode battery interview processes, to the point that I started asking FAANG recruiters that several years ago, and saying that was a showstopper for me, like a signal for how they treated people. Though I otherwise wanted to work at a couple of them.

After consulting levels.fyi, however, I've revised my opinion: if an employer is willing to pay a higher-level software engineer 2x the total comp they'd make most other places... whatever interview process they want suddenly becomes a rich and honored cultural tradition, to be treasured, and approached with the utmost reverence and humility. :)

That said, for people who've frittered away their discretionary time on things like open source, hobbies, family, etc., rather than drilling for FAANG interviews, the well-known "test prep" commitment for Leetcode-oriented companies is a barrier to even applying there.

Re:“I've had to relearn coding to get through the new interv... by SavageBeast on Friday December 04, 2020 @11:40AM (#25304364)
"That said, for people who've frittered away their discretionary time on things like open source, hobbies, family, etc., rather than drilling for FAANG interviews, the well-known "test prep" commitment for Leetcode-oriented companies is a barrier to even applying there."

Salary aside - this is the truth right here. I interviewed at a few FAANGs and I didn't have what Id call a good experience. Neither resulted in an offer. To even prepare for them was a monumental time investment. I tried it and now I can have an informed opinion on the subject. Id rather have a life than drill for random interview questions.

Side note: I have yet to personally hear or read anything about why its so great to work at one of these places where someone DOES NOT mention the money. Frankly, were it not for the money Id have never even considered interviewing at these places at all. I have come to the opinion that if it's just money, there are other more tangible ways to invest my time that will result in money. Drilling For Interviews as a money accumulation seems to me a bit like heading to the casino on the 28th of the month because you're short a few bucks for rent.

Re:“I've had to relearn coding to get through the new interv... by neilv on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:23PM (#25305056)
Agreed. I kinda wish the FAANGs paid less, and had to appeal to people solely on positive impact, kinds of work people can do, work environment and how people are treated, etc. Adding "oh yeah, and you make more money here" complicates.

The big G, for example, already seemed like the place to go, as soon as they launched the early site (the company was obviously smarter than most of what was going on), and there was also the "don't be evil" that resonated with a lot of the prevailing sentiment among the pre-Web Internet-savvy techies. Though I suppose there might've already been a money factor from the start (it seemed like most people were crunching hard at work, but also prone to job-hopping for the hottest IPO lottery ticket at the moment), but it wasn't as clear as today.

Re:“I've had to relearn coding to get through the new interv... by tguvot on Friday December 04, 2020 @03:00PM (#25306985)
I had a gig as contractor at one of FAANGs (they needed expertise that they didn't posses). Money aside, after you remove from equation fleet of leetcoders there is a bunch of smart people over there that work on solving various interesting and challenging problems. It's great place to learn on how problems (especially in scaling of various infrastructure systems on global level) are solved and also how things shouldn't be done :)
Re:“I've had to relearn coding to get through the new interv... by yodsanklai on Friday December 04, 2020 @11:53AM (#25304591)
Thanks, I tried to give an objective assessment but I'm certainly a bit biased because it eventually worked out well for me (luck being a factor).

But I understand that people who invested a lot of time (and sometimes money) on their preparation feel extremely bitter if it didn't pay out in the end. It's also unfair that some candidates (especially some who have a family or not much time off) simply may not have the time for this.