Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments
by oblio on Friday December 04, 2020 @07:51AM
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People tend to run away from physical, backbreaking work.
It's hard to do this kind of job when you're 50 or 60 and with physical work the risk of death or injury is also higher.
Plus it's harder to move up the financial and social ladder.
Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments
by the-dude on Friday December 04, 2020 @08:01AM
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Ah, well, this might help to explain to said cohort that instead of having a vocational training, they should study to become an Ethical AI scientist.
We should not forget their predicament is in their own making after all. It definitely sleeps better.
Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments
by oblio on Friday December 04, 2020 @08:18AM
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The bad news for your approach is that these people still have to be integrated in society, they don't just vanish upon graduating "Ethical AI".
Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments
by imtringued on Friday December 04, 2020 @10:00AM
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Wasn't his suggestion that you should look for jobs that are actually in demand (someone still has to do physical labor) and don't necessarily require higher education?
Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments
by oblio on Friday December 04, 2020 @10:24AM
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Yeah, but you still need some qualifications for those. I don't think you can just apply for a welding position as J. Random, off the street.
Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments
by the-dude on Friday December 04, 2020 @08:34AM
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Pardon my ignorance, but what does integrated in society actually mean?
Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments
by oblio on Friday December 04, 2020 @09:24AM
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If they can't find jobs or fall on hard times because of it, they still need to be helped. Shelter, food, etc.
Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments
by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Friday December 04, 2020 @07:56AM
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Then maybe we, as a culture, should work harder on not looking down on people who do the actual labor of keeping civilization afloat.
Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments
by oblio on Friday December 04, 2020 @08:17AM
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Well, good luck with that.
It's pretty much universal that people appreciate some kinds of work and look down on others.
Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments
by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Friday December 04, 2020 @09:16AM
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Mike Rowe did a lot of good work promoting more respect for traditionally looked-down-upon jobs. It is just a matter of changing cultural narrative.
Re:Big Tech is getting cozy with computer science departments
by alisonkisk on Friday December 04, 2020 @03:50PM
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Not really. People look down on jobs that pay less for the cost in work and health.
What a lot of software 'engineers' in NL rather don't see is that you can make a very very healthy living as a 'drywaller' ( not a native speaker, can't find the word ). You can easily make more than as a software dev.
The general population just is not as malleable ( Dutch: maakbaar? ) as boomers would like to believe. So at the bottom we have an entire cohort who used to work in factories or the building industry, who rely on financial support.
The first 'food bank' in NL was started in 2000. Why?