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Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google by whymauri on Thursday December 03, 2020 @02:11PM (#25293136)
>Said hires have thus far, as far as I can tell, not produced anything of substantial value to any of these companies.

I mean, yes. It's an unfortunate reality that ethics are often at direct odds with the unrelenting pursuit of business value. For a big tech like Google, by caring about people and the impact of your technologies, you will almost surely sacrifice profits in the short term.

So then the question is: people or profits?

Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google by pgayed on Thursday December 03, 2020 @02:28PM (#25293387)
A business doesn’t get to exist because of its employees. It gets to exist because of its customers.
Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google by AlexandrB on Thursday December 03, 2020 @04:02PM (#25294873)
Or increasingly: because of its investors.
Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google by pgayed on Friday December 04, 2020 @11:25PM (#25311736)
Investors are an instantiation of the class Customer.
Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google by high_derivative on Thursday December 03, 2020 @02:18PM (#25293248)
Sure - I am just observing this from the power dynamics here. A relatively low-level employee making aggressive and public demands to a large corporation should think carefully about their position. Unless the goal is a scandal for publicity.
Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google by pgayed on Thursday December 03, 2020 @02:25PM (#25293345)
> unrelenting pursuit of business value

Who determines what value a business gets assigned?

Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google by whymauri on Thursday December 03, 2020 @02:27PM (#25293379)
I'm sorry, I don't quite understand the question.
Re:AI researcher Timnit Gebru resigns from Google by pgayed on Thursday December 03, 2020 @02:30PM (#25293435)
How does value get created?