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Re:S&P Dow Jones Indices to launch cryptocurrency indexes in... by JxLS-cpgbe0 on Thursday December 03, 2020 @12:34PM (#25291678)
> It seems like a ponzi to me

A Ponzi Scheme relies on a central authority, BTC by definition has none.

Maybe you were trying to say "market manipulation" or "securities fraud?"

Re:S&P Dow Jones Indices to launch cryptocurrency indexes in... by x87678r on Thursday December 03, 2020 @04:41PM (#25295519)
No definitely ponzi. Maybe a central authority is in the definition for ponzi, but I think this is exactly Ponzi without a CA. The whole thing isn't fraud or manipulation because again there is no one single owner, though looking at all the junk on social media there is definitely lots of both.
Re:S&P Dow Jones Indices to launch cryptocurrency indexes in... by JxLS-cpgbe0 on Thursday December 03, 2020 @05:36PM (#25296246)
> this is exactly Ponzi without a CA

Which would be...not a Ponzi Scheme. What makes you say that besides "junk on social media?"

Re:S&P Dow Jones Indices to launch cryptocurrency indexes in... by x87678r on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:41PM (#25305320)
Honestly I think BTC matches this definition - just there is no organizer. Esp the last paragraph.

https://www.investor.gov/introduction-investing/investing-ba...

Re:S&P Dow Jones Indices to launch cryptocurrency indexes in... by JxLS-cpgbe0 on Saturday December 05, 2020 @01:51PM (#25317167)
> there is no organizer

So...not a Ponzi Scheme, by the definition you linked to

> Ponzi used funds from new investors to pay fake “returns” to earlier investors

> they use money from new investors to pay earlier investors and may steal some of the money for themselves

There is no "Ponzi," no "they," no one "paying" anyone directly, no "stealing." It's about as far from a Ponzi Scheme as you can imagine. It's The Wizard of Lies without de Niro.

If I go online and post "Apple stock is great!" and it makes someone buy AAPL, and I profit off that as a shareholder, is that a Ponzi scheme? No?

Well BTC is that but without even the business to hold stock in. How could you possibly argue that was a Ponzi Scheme unless, say, you didn't know what that was before you googled it...