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Re:macOS to FreeBSD migration a.k.a. why I left macOS by ashtonkem on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @12:35PM (#25267466)
> There is still no central repository for useful applications. Managing and keeping all software updated takes a lot of manual work.

And this is why I tend to ignore most commentary on Operating Systems. You know the moment that Windows releases a centralized repository, there will be a thousand cries of "walled garden!" and "embrace, extend, and extinguish". It's literally impossible to satisfy everyone, given how many mutually exclusive needs exist out there.

Re:macOS to FreeBSD migration a.k.a. why I left macOS by smichel17 on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @12:41PM (#25267526)
Not if it were a repository a la Linux, distributions, where:

- You can still install applications manually, and there are no special permissions lost for doing so.

- You can access it using your choice of application, instead of only the MS-approved tool

- You can add 3rd party repositories

If that's what the "Windows store" was, I'd absolutely use it (if I still used Windows). If it comes along with a bunch of other crap, then yeah, there will be pitchforks.

Re:macOS to FreeBSD migration a.k.a. why I left macOS by R0b0t1 on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @12:50PM (#25267645)
There is a Windows store. It kind of failed, mostly because using it requires using gimped APIs. If they got rid of that more people would use it.

What does seem to work is the certificate and code reputation. It does actually prevent users from running things but is easy enough to click through if you really know better.

Re:macOS to FreeBSD migration a.k.a. why I left macOS by smichel17 on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @01:04PM (#25267826)
> mostly because using it requires using gimped APIs

Yes, that's the "other crap" I was referring to [edit: specifically "special permissions lost for doing so". I was a little vague because I knew there were some additional restrictions for using the Windows store but wasn't sure what they were.]

Re:macOS to FreeBSD migration a.k.a. why I left macOS by pjmlp on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:55PM (#25269126)
You can deploy Win32 application on the store as well, and Project Reunion is about merging both worlds.
Re:macOS to FreeBSD migration a.k.a. why I left macOS by reader_mode on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @01:46PM (#25268359)
Re:macOS to FreeBSD migration a.k.a. why I left macOS by smichel17 on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:09PM (#25268622)
Didn't know this existed. I'll definitely consider it if I ever go back to using Windows.

I didn't spend enough time to verify if it satisfies the "can use other clients" and "can add 3rd party repositories" criteria. But assuming it does, I bet tons of people would happily use it, if Microsoft blessed it as the official standard for managing Windows applications / installed it by default.

Re:macOS to FreeBSD migration a.k.a. why I left macOS by vips7L on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @03:08PM (#25269267)
The official package manager of windows is winget.

https://github.com/microsoft/winget-cli

I like scoop though personally.

https://scoop.sh

Re:macOS to FreeBSD migration a.k.a. why I left macOS by reader_mode on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:25PM (#25268797)
I didn't use windows for a few years but last time I tried everything I needed was in the main repo - it feels similar to brew but less popular among windows users.
Re:macOS to FreeBSD migration a.k.a. why I left macOS by stinos on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:13PM (#25268669)
In combination with the ChocolateyGet provider for Powershell this works pretty well actually. It's not apt-get or similar, but it does get rid of the point-click installation for quite a lot of common software.
Re:macOS to FreeBSD migration a.k.a. why I left macOS by daptaq on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @12:42PM (#25267545)
I think that that is because Microsoft would probably only create a Walled Garden. What's the chance they will allow a system where anyone can host their own repository, and add/remove them as a user? EEE doesn't seem applicable here, because there's nothing to embrace and extend. It's problem that has to be solved for scratch.
Re:macOS to FreeBSD migration a.k.a. why I left macOS by vetinari on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @12:54PM (#25267707)
"Centralized" does not imply "only". Debian or CentOS do have centralized repos, but that does not prevent others having repos too (i.e. proxmox for Debian or EPEL for CentOS).
Re:macOS to FreeBSD migration a.k.a. why I left macOS by metalliqaz on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @12:43PM (#25267562)
They already did, it's called the windows store (and the UWP platform)
Re:macOS to FreeBSD migration a.k.a. why I left macOS by eikenberry on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:12PM (#25268666)
Not true. There is one central repository for Windows that manages all the useful applications that I use on Windows. That central repository is called Steam and no one really complains about it.
Re:macOS to FreeBSD migration a.k.a. why I left macOS by shakow on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @03:03PM (#25269221)
> "walled garden!"

This is only true when the centralized store is the only way of installing software. That's why iOS is called a walled garden, but not Android.