Re:Violent, lively and brash, taverns were everywhere in ear...
by exabrial on Monday November 30, 2020 @08:15PM
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They were presented in my education, though mine wasn't a public education.
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Re:Violent, lively and brash, taverns were everywhere in ear...
by bobthepanda on Monday November 30, 2020 @09:06PM
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They were presented in mine, though New York being the center of Loyalist America probably had something to do with it.
Re:Violent, lively and brash, taverns were everywhere in ear...
by epicureanideal on Monday November 30, 2020 @10:50PM
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Interesting! I wonder how it has influenced political parties etc. to the present?
Re:Violent, lively and brash, taverns were everywhere in ear...
by bobthepanda on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @02:49PM
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I don't think it has influenced political parties per se, because New York has had so much immigration that descendants of the original colonial population is a negligible percentage. (That, and many Loyalists fled to other British colonies to escape persecution.)
Where this shows up is maybe general political philosophy. New York has a strong tradition of concentrated government, with Alexander Hamilton behind proposals for a US Senate with lifetime appointment and a central bank. And the state executive is unusually strong and the most celebrated figures in state government, elected or otherwise, are known for wielding their powers in nearly dictatorial ways. (Andrew Cuomo is currently trying to emulate this, invoking the images of former members of government like Robert Moses and Nelson Rockefeller. And yes, that Rockefeller.)