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Re:A better Kubernetes from the ground up by brown9-2 on Sunday November 29, 2020 @11:46AM (#25246230)
Both of these taught me that Kubernetes is extremely complex, and that most people who are trying to use it are not prepared for the sheer amount of work that lies between the marketing brochure and the system those brochures promise.

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GKE SRE taught me that even the foremost Kubernetes experts cannot safely operate Kubernetes at scale.

This is rough to hear coming from a former engineer at a top cloud company which has often lead the way on “marketing brochures”.

Re:A better Kubernetes from the ground up by markbnj on Sunday November 29, 2020 @12:31PM (#25246530)
It caught my eye too, but if this perception is true they do a pretty good job of faking it. I don't know if our clusters are "at scale" - the largest of them has about 120 nodes - but we have had very few issues in over three years of running production workloads on GKE.
Re:A better Kubernetes from the ground up by AnotherTechie on Sunday November 29, 2020 @03:36PM (#25247862)
GKE SRE feels all the pain of kubernetes and none of the pleasure. You don't get paged to be told that the fleet is happy.
Re:A better Kubernetes from the ground up by markbnj on Sunday November 29, 2020 @04:36PM (#25248306)
Absolutely true!
Re:A better Kubernetes from the ground up by jml78 on Sunday November 29, 2020 @03:14PM (#25247677)
I got involved very early and had to roll my own implementation using terraform and shell scripts.

It has been in productions for a long time without issue. Only downside is that we have to do blue green upgrades for major versions instead of in-place upgrades.

I keep pushing for our customer to adopt eks or gke, anything but my custom code base.

Re:A better Kubernetes from the ground up by corytheboyd on Sunday November 29, 2020 @11:48AM (#25246246)
Out of curiosity, is it rough hearing that the author felt lied to by the marketing, or that you worked for one of the companies doing it, or something else?
Re:A better Kubernetes from the ground up by brown9-2 on Sunday November 29, 2020 @11:58AM (#25246313)
as a customer of the mentioned cloud managed service
Re:A better Kubernetes from the ground up by dave_universetf on Sunday November 29, 2020 @06:21PM (#25249049)
Author here. If I had to run Kubernetes for money-making purposes, I would still seriously consider GKE. I still think they're the best at running k8s. It's just that k8s limits what any operator can hope for.