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Re:The Persian Art of Etiquette (2016) by plumsempy on Saturday November 28, 2020 @07:19PM (#25241786)
I am Iranian, and I have to admit, taarof has been an interesting subject in my social interactions.

With other Iranians, I have no problem reading and sending social cues; with non-Iranians taarof makes me come off as super nice and kind. But what happened, when people repeatedly took me on on my taarofs, I grew silently very spiteful and distanced myself from them. If a guest is staying late we never ask them to leave, we ask them to stay for dinner and that is a cue that I am about to inconvenience myself and you have to leave, but more often than not, in situations like this, I ended up having a guest over for hours and then overnight lol.

It took me a while to rewire my brain to set the boundaries explicitly, and I have to admit it is still excruciatingly painful for me to reject someone; makes me feel very rude. Nonetheless this approach works great, I dare say a more straightforward culture allows for a better mental state by allowing explicit and clear boundaries for oneself.

Re:The Persian Art of Etiquette (2016) by thatguy0900 on Saturday November 28, 2020 @09:12PM (#25242400)
Funny, I wonder how many guests didn't want to stay for dinner but felt it would be rude to say no. I now I would have stayed out of politeness if someone asked me to stay for dinner while I was in their house.
Re:The Persian Art of Etiquette (2016) by SirArtVandelay on Saturday November 28, 2020 @11:00PM (#25242829)
Re:The Persian Art of Etiquette (2016) by admiralspoo on Sunday November 29, 2020 @12:09AM (#25243063)
This sort of thing could also make a great "Darmok"-style Star Trek episode for Data
Re:The Persian Art of Etiquette (2016) by js2 on Sunday November 29, 2020 @02:59PM (#25247591)
Re:The Persian Art of Etiquette (2016) by eganist on Saturday November 28, 2020 @11:33PM (#25242937)
> I grew silently very spiteful and distanced myself from them.

I didn't think someone else would reinforce my points throughout the thread. Thanks for your experience; sorry you had to go through this, and it's great to see someone else embrace a more direct approach.