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Re:‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase by zpeti on Friday November 27, 2020 @01:52PM (#25231540)
How about the CEO refusing to align with far left politics? Whether you think that is good or bad, that could well be the reason for them leaving, but it doesn't actually mean that there was overt racism.
Re:‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase by slg on Friday November 27, 2020 @02:30PM (#25231855)
Can you expand on what you mean by "far left politics"? Reminder, this happened in late 2018 and early 2019. It was before this year's round of Black Lives Matter protests. It was also before Coinbase issued its no politics edict. I am really struggling to think of what "far left politics" you are referring to here that would be important enough to the Black employees of Coinbase that it results in 75% of them leaving.
Re:‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase by treis on Friday November 27, 2020 @11:16PM (#25235228)
Most other tech firms make a specific effort to recruit Black people, promote them, and support causes Black people support. Coinbase's position is that while they support those things they want to focus on their cryptocurrency mission. Given that, the expected outcome would be 0 Black people working at Coinbase. If you were black, you'd much rather work for the firms actively trying to recruit and promote you.
Re:‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase by inglor_cz on Saturday November 28, 2020 @04:21AM (#25236476)
"If you were black, you'd much rather work for the firms actively trying to recruit and promote you."

This is a tall assumption. People are more complicated than that, and so are their identities. What if you are a pro-life, strongly Catholic black person? I can definitely see the pro-diversity campaigners balking at the "pro-life" component of your identity.

Re:‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase by chordalkeyboard on Saturday November 28, 2020 @02:09AM (#25235906)
> Most other tech firms make a specific effort to recruit Black people, promote them, and support causes Black people support.

Really? "Most other tech firms" do this?

Re:‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase by Veelox on Sunday November 29, 2020 @11:15AM (#25246018)
I mean you have articles like these https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2020-06-24... being written.
Re:‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase by chordalkeyboard on Sunday November 29, 2020 @07:25PM (#25249479)
> Baltimore said that he’s glad more people are talking about the problem, but that what’s really needed is “boots on the ground”: consistent money, time and leadership dedicated to actively bringing more Black tech professionals and investors into the industry.

That doesn't sound like "most companies" in the tech industry actively seeking and hiring minorities. Perhaps they do and articles like these are deceptive?

Re:‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase by Veelox on Sunday November 29, 2020 @08:13PM (#25249783)
Google does https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/google-...

Apple does "For the past five years, we’ve continued to hire more women and underrepresented minorities every year." https://www.apple.com/diversity/

Facebook does "We’re committed to building a workforce that’s as diverse as the communities we serve" https://www.facebook.com/careers/facebook-life/diversity

I would look up others but I think those three make the point. Companies are actively hiring underrepresented minorities. Yes some people think more effort should be put in but to say it isn't happening is being ignorant of reality.

Re:‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase by chordalkeyboard on Sunday November 29, 2020 @08:52PM (#25249997)
> I would look up others but I think those three make the point. Companies are actively hiring underrepresented minorities.

I was questioning the assertion that it was most companies. Three companies, no statistics showing actual improvement, that doesn't make the point. Thanks for the links. It looks like Google is having trouble achieving this goal, since the article you linked shows the same percentage of minorities year to year. Apple says they have made progress, which is good. The facebook link doesn't have any numbers. Apple says "53% of new hires in the U.S. are from historically underrepresented groups in tech" but it doesn't give a timeframe or provide statistics that show how much of their workforce is minority or how much improvement they have made. I'm not sure that public relations boilerplate actually translates to a commitment to a diverse workforce.

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Re:‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase by slg on Friday November 27, 2020 @03:08PM (#25232156)
To repeat myself, this happened in late 2018 and early 2019. That was before the round of protests that you are speaking about. What far left political issue was Coinbase potentially fighting against during the relevant time window that would have pushed these employees out?

Also I think you mean Trevor Noah and not Noah Trevor.

Re:‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase by cbthrow91 on Friday November 27, 2020 @03:23PM (#25232264)
@slg: I believe CB has internally discouraged politics in the workplace not related to the mission since before 2020
Re:‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase by aparsons on Friday November 27, 2020 @05:16PM (#25233045)
Here’s the catcher though: these people never personally sacrifice themselves, and a good number of them are quite biased themselves.
Re:‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase by tptacek on Friday November 27, 2020 @01:54PM (#25231565)
I don't understand the premise here. Most of their Black employees left, not their far left employees.
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Re:‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase by tptacek on Friday November 27, 2020 @02:13PM (#25231708)
Black Democrats (most Black people are Democrats, something for which there is some social pressure) are generally more conservative, and significantly more religious, than other Democrats. So: no, this isn't responsive to what I said.

(One good source: White & Laird).

Re:‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase by kortilla on Saturday November 28, 2020 @02:18AM (#25235935)
> which there is some social pressure

Lol, that’s understating it a bit. The president elect said “you ain’t black” to black people who even consider Trump. An old white man confidently telling black people their identity is jeopardized if they even consider not voting for him.

Re:‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase by tptacek on Saturday November 28, 2020 @02:46AM (#25236036)
The President-elect, obviously, is also not far-left.

White & Laird's book is super interesting. Check it out.

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Re:‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase by tptacek on Friday November 27, 2020 @03:02PM (#25232116)
"Uncle Tom" and "Not Black Enough" have nothing to do with far-leftism. As I just said, with an academic source: Black people are relatively more conservative than other Democrats. To the extent that we're including Black Republicans in the mix, the analysis gets even weirder.
Re:‘Tokenized’: Black Workers’ Struggles at Coinbase by CyanLite4 on Friday November 27, 2020 @10:25PM (#25234988)
That’s the problem. Black lives mattering is a political issue only to those of privilege. I can’t believe we’re actually having political debate if certain people’s lives should matter or not.