Re:China aims to shake US grip on chip design tools
by pjc50 on Thursday November 26, 2020 @08:58AM
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Having worked in the EDA industry, I can quite believe it, it's stagnant and not capable of paying SV money for much rarer skills. But ..
> The West is set on to effectively exterminating whatever serious industries they have left
.. this is hardly deliberate. "The West" is not a single actor with a single intent.
Re:China aims to shake US grip on chip design tools
by MacsHeadroom on Thursday November 26, 2020 @09:03AM
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More recently, half the time I can't even find a datasheet in Chinese.
Is there a Chinese website/repository similar to wikichip?
Re:China aims to shake US grip on chip design tools
by suifbwish on Thursday November 26, 2020 @09:42AM
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When the last civilian industry of a nation fails, it will suddenly become evident why so much money has been spent on maintaining a powerful military. If you can’t make something yourself you make an excuse to invade someone who can make it.
Out of EDA companies that are in US, only Synopsys, and MG comes to mind.
MG is now Siemens, and they are now full tiers behind Synopsys, and Cadence, after their sale.
So no wonder of the exodus.
I heard a saying "EDA industry is much like CAD software, but worse." People working on top tier EDAs need to be heads above their peers academically, know both tons of rarely going together disciplines like computer science, and process engineering, but they are also very poorly remunerated for their outstanding level of knowledge because the industry is so tiny.
And yes, I never saw a shortage of Western engineers working in China, with them often calling themselves "labour market refugees."
It feels the West is set on to effectively exterminating whatever serious industries it has left, with loss of semiconductor manufacturing being the most glaring, and extreme example.
Some chips these days simply don't have datasheets in English.