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Re:China aims to shake US grip on chip design tools by tjpnz on Thursday November 26, 2020 @07:17AM (#25219297)
I would be interested in hearing more about this. Living in Japan or South Korea can be a very rough transition for some (I've witnessed my fair share of colleagues exiting Japan after only a few months). Mainland China would present many of the same challenges with the addition of living under an autocratic regime.
Re:China aims to shake US grip on chip design tools by spacemanmatt on Thursday November 26, 2020 @07:32AM (#25219423)
I would be interested in living in a version of the U.S. where citizens recognize autocracy by the behavior, instead of depending on their television to inform them.
Re:China aims to shake US grip on chip design tools by the-dude on Thursday November 26, 2020 @08:23AM (#25219800)
What are you hinting at? The Bush administrations?
Re:China aims to shake US grip on chip design tools by spacemanmatt on Monday November 30, 2020 @05:53AM (#25252528)
I think you're onto something, there, with that.
Re:China aims to shake US grip on chip design tools by pjc50 on Thursday November 26, 2020 @08:59AM (#25220043)
Lots of people on HN say, whenever the topic comes up, that they don't care about politics and don't want to hear about it. In China, you can have that!
Re:China aims to shake US grip on chip design tools by baybal2 on Thursday November 26, 2020 @08:43AM (#25219935)
> Mainland China would present many of the same challenges with the addition of living under an autocratic regime.

And with China now sliding back into madness of seventies again, I see lots, and lots of people leaving,... but they do not go back to the US, or West in general.

Out of all places, some went to Vietnam, some, to Taiwan, some try their luck in places which were never before associated with electronics industry. One rather serious company of a person I know quite well, whose success was entirely on it being in China, is now relocating to Singapore.

Re:China aims to shake US grip on chip design tools by mytailorisrich on Thursday November 26, 2020 @08:11AM (#25219726)
Having lived in China and visited Japan on a number of occasion, my feeling is that it would be more difficult to live in Japan than in China as a Westerner.

I think that many people overestimate the impact of living under China's "autocratic regime" has on daily life. Especially if you're a Westerner there is no difference.

I have always felt that Japanese culture and society were more difficult to adapt to. China is much less rigid.

Obviously it's still a big cultural and linguistic change.

Re:China aims to shake US grip on chip design tools by trevyn on Thursday November 26, 2020 @08:35AM (#25219874)
Ah, we need to update the joke for the times, eh? Yes, for a Westerner there is no difference:

You can stand in front of the White House and yell "Down with Donald Trump!", and you will not be punished.

Equally, you can also stand in Tiananmen Square in Beijing and yell "Down with Donald Trump!", and you will not be punished.

Obviously it's still a big cultural and linguistic change.

Re:China aims to shake US grip on chip design tools by mytailorisrich on Thursday November 26, 2020 @08:46AM (#25219951)
Be dismissive all you want but you give an example that is quite irrelevant in daily life, which is my point.

If you're into political activism, sure China is not the place for you to move to. But look at the daily life of a typical American and the daily life of a typical Chinese and they will be boringly similar.

Re:China aims to shake US grip on chip design tools by trevyn on Thursday November 26, 2020 @09:09AM (#25220132)
You may be underestimating the amount of time the typical American spends saying “Down with Donald Trump”.
Re:China aims to shake US grip on chip design tools by kamaal on Thursday November 26, 2020 @10:38AM (#25220870)
As an Indian, it's one thing to curse a political leader in the comfort of your home. Totally a different thing to take to political activism on the streets.

In any country, barring dire situations, most people just want to wake up every morning and go do their jobs to put food on the table.

In India, most tech people don't even vote, let alone indulge in active political causes. Most of those people will do fine anywhere.

Re:China aims to shake US grip on chip design tools by dragonelite on Thursday November 26, 2020 @12:19PM (#25221852)
I have seen how multiple countries handle their protests movement these last few years. Its the same everywhere people gather then the cops smash it.