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Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months by rmays on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @07:46AM (#25208641)
Just eat less. It's not hard
Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months by yourapostasy on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @08:20AM (#25208889)
The "it's just" crowd entirely miss what really needs to be addressed by the targets of their pithiness: the satiation mechanism. For everyone who gets upset at the "it's simple...", "it's just..." (CICO, eat less, stay out of the kitchen, etc.) tone-deaf preachiness, remember that their satiation mechanism works very different from yours.

Figure out how to hack your satiation (it is very different for different people), and you have started to unwind the stack on how to address your intake challenges. Start your rabbit hole research with the search string "long term induced satiety" (but without the quotes), and branch off from there. That starts you off with physical and chemically-constrained satiety, but there are cultural, mental, social, financial, and many other factors at play as well that might be dominant in your particular situation so go in those directions if it makes sense to you. YMMV.

Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months by cies on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @08:10AM (#25208815)
Eat less calories, or even better: less calories that you actually absorb.

You intestine cannot extract every calorie, especially those in unprocessed (fiberous) plant cells get excreted.

I find eating more helps me: eat more volume/weight, of less calorie dense foods. Diets like WFPB and raw mornings-and-or-afternoons do that for me.

Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months by mrfusion on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @08:26AM (#25208948)
I forgot where I read it but a cool rule of thumb is aim for foods with 1 calorie per gram or less and you’ll naturally lose weight.

Good luck finding many foods like that or enjoying them though.

Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months by cies on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @04:38PM (#25214576)
During my raw fruity mornings and lunches I actually look for calories: which I mostly find in tropical fruits.

Also: not trying to lose weight, more trying to build some :)

Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months by Insanity on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @07:54AM (#25208691)
I guess obesity and obesity-related disease being a major cause of death would contract that it's "not hard".

It took some serious lifestyle changes for me to become and stay in shape - and habits _are_ a hard thing to change. ;-)

Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months by amwelles on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @08:10AM (#25208825)
Eating less is a simple concept, but not necessarily easy. The author specifically mentions struggling with binge eating.
Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months by watwut on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @08:39AM (#25209073)
It is incredibly easy to diet yourself to nutritional deficiency of some sorts. While still gaining weight.
Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months by amwelles on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @01:09PM (#25212227)
A well-balanced diet will certainly make you healthier and feel better! If you are eating more energy than you're expending, you will gain weight. If you are eating less energy than you're expending, you will lose weight. This is well-researched.

I think, from my experience and from the experiences I've read of people who have lost weight and kept it off, the key is finding a sustainable diet. One that your future, goal-weight self can be trusted to follow even after you're done losing the weight. People tend to get to that point and then go back to eating like they did when they were overweight, which reverses all the hard work they did.

Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months by dkersten on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @08:10AM (#25208823)
You do know that when you eat less, the amount hungrier you get is greater than the amount you’re eating less, right? You do know that it’s been proven again and again that willpower doesn’t work?

Telling someone to eat less to lose weight is technically correct, but in reality is useless advice. And no, it really is hard.

Maybe if you got lucky with a great metabolism it might be easy, but a lot of people don’t have that and will struggle.

It’s not about eating less and more about eating correct.

Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months by XCSme on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @08:05AM (#25208774)
Personally (I'm not that fat) I tried eating less to get a nicer body, but whenever I do so I feel tired or dizzy when exercising. Yes, I lose some weight, but it also feels that my powers are gone. I now eat whenever I am hungry as much as I want, but exercise more. I no longer have the dizzy problems.
Re:I tried out-training my diet for 18 months by hmate9 on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @08:04AM (#25208764)
You should write a book.