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Re:You might not need machine learning by username90 on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @08:59AM (#25198430)
Machine learning is a set of techniques developed to attack modeling problems that traditional algorithms couldn't solve. So if the algorithm was developed and used before computers it definitely isn't machine learning. Everything done in this article was known and used before computers existed hence not machine learning.

Doing automatically controlled systems was still possible before computers just that it required a bit more creative use of analog components.

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Re:You might not need machine learning by disgruntledphd2 on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @09:57AM (#25198976)
> Machine learning is a set of techniques developed to attack modeling problems that traditional algorithms couldn't solve. So if the algorithm was developed and used before computers it definitely isn't machine learning

I think that it's important to note here that this was the set of problems that computer science researchers didn't know how to solve.

In the early days, they mostly ended up re-inventing statistical methods.

And to be fair, a neural net is just a bunch of linear models joined by a non-linearity. In that case, it's essentially stacked logistic regression, which was invented before computers.

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Re:You might not need machine learning by username90 on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @10:23AM (#25199252)
> And to be fair, a neural net is just a bunch of linear models joined by a non-linearity.

Nobody did this before computers though.

> . In that case, it's essentially stacked logistic regression, which was invented before computers.

It isn't "basically logistic regression", it is just a technique which uses logistic regressions. The full technique is ML. If you remove the ML parts it is basically just logistic regression left though.

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Re:You might not need machine learning by disgruntledphd2 on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @02:35PM (#25202134)
Like, logistic regression uses a non-linearity to convert the outputs to the 0-1 scale. How does that differ from a one layer neural network?

I think this would probably be a more profitable discussion if you could define Machine Learning for me.

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Re:You might not need machine learning by dryrunes on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @02:17PM (#25201967)
Is logistic regression not ml? Or maybe only if it's fit with gd?
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Re:You might not need machine learning by RyanGoosling on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @07:11PM (#25204539)
> Machine learning is a set of techniques developed to attack modeling problems that traditional algorithms couldn't solve. So if the algorithm was developed and used before computers it definitely isn't machine learning.

How does your evidence support your claim?

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