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Re:Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County C... by wl on Monday November 23, 2020 @07:36PM (#25193798)
That doesn't require a CCW. The guards could easily get exposed firearms permits. They need the CCWs to carry concealed and off duty.
Re:Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County C... by zaroth on Monday November 23, 2020 @08:01PM (#25193985)
You can't carry openly in many places, for example, in CA it is illegal to openly carry a handgun. [1]

CCW is the only option, and they were holding this guy hostage by not issuing one when it was obviously necessary and appropriate.

[1] - https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/faqs/can-i-openly-carry-a-gun-i...

Re:Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County C... by wl on Monday November 23, 2020 @08:27PM (#25194186)
It's not illegal to carry a firearm loaded and exposed in California if you have the proper license issued by BSIS, which is separate from a CCW.
Re:Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County C... by zaroth on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @09:16AM (#25198591)
That license is only applicable in specific circumstances, e.g. like for uniformed security guards.
Re:Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County C... by wl on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @10:32AM (#25199333)
Which solves the problem of needing armed guards.
Re:Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County C... by Rebelgecko on Monday November 23, 2020 @08:30PM (#25194217)
You don't need a CCW to carry on your own property
Re:Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County C... by mlindner on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @04:21AM (#25207365)
You do in California. Please don't assume every state has the same laws.
Re:Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County C... by Rebelgecko on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @12:45PM (#25211916)
No you dont. It would be silly if you needed a license to open or concealed carry on your own property. That would make it impossible for most Californians to perform gun maintenance at home or defend themselves from an intruder.

Here's a decent summary from Gabby Giffords mentioning the right to carry at home and at work (requires permission of business owner but NOT necessarily landlord): https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/location-restricti...

If you wanna go straight to the source, section 26035 of the CA Penal Code is a good start:

"Nothing in Section 25850 shall prevent any person engaged in any lawful business... or any officer, employee, or agent authorized by that person for lawful purposes connected with that business, from having a loaded firearm within the person’s place of business"

25525 PC is also relevant as it reiterates the home & business exemption to concealed carry laws

Re:Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County C... by wl on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @06:19PM (#25215395)
The problem is you're looking at one statute in isolation and not how courts have interpreted it in concert with other statutes.

Yes, sometimes you can lawfully open or concealed carry on your own property without needing a permit. But if it's open to the public, you need a permit.

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php?title=Unlicensed...

Re:Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County C... by Rebelgecko on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @06:32PM (#25215485)
Does Apple's campus meet that standard of being a quasi-public place? I think it's fenced in and access is by invitation only
Re:Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County C... by mlindner on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @04:21AM (#25207366)
You do in California. Please don't assume every state has the same laws.
Re:Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County C... by wl on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @06:30PM (#25215469)
I was speaking specifically about California. Guards don't need CCWs to carry loaded and exposed. They just need a guard card and a firearms qualifications card issued by the BSIS.