Re:Oxford University breakthrough on global COVID-19 vaccine
by ulfw on Monday November 23, 2020 @04:44AM
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Because 95% efficacy is twice as good as 90%. And some people are willing to pay the $30 it costs to be 5% likelihood to have a non-functioning vaccine vs. a 10% likelihood the vaccine you just got won't work on you.
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Re:Oxford University breakthrough on global COVID-19 vaccine
by StavrosK on Monday November 23, 2020 @05:26AM
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Aren't people worried about the fact that mRNA vaccines haven't been deployed before? I don't see much apprehension about that generally, but a few months of testing of a brand new delivery technique don't sound that extensive to me.
Re:Oxford University breakthrough on global COVID-19 vaccine
by nemo44x on Monday November 23, 2020 @07:21AM
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The delivery technique relies on LNP (lipid nano particles) which is fairly refined and existing therapeutics use today. There are potential patent violations though (both Phizer and Moderna possibly violating Arbutus patent) but it’s unclear to me how this affects distribution.
Re:Oxford University breakthrough on global COVID-19 vaccine
by wbl on Monday November 23, 2020 @10:12AM
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No judge in their right mind will grant an injunction when doing so will cost the lives of third parties. All the harms can be solved with a big check.
Re:Oxford University breakthrough on global COVID-19 vaccine
by nemo44x on Monday November 23, 2020 @12:02PM
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Yeah I'm not 100% familiar with the potential case here but I'd imagine it's in everyone's best interest to ensure that the medicine is not hindered in its ability to be manufactured and delivered and that the company that holds patents on the delivery vehicle (LNP) would be compensated justly.
It isn't a new thing for what it's worth. Going back to earlier this year it has been looked at, but we don't really have a clear picture on what will shake out.
Re:Oxford University breakthrough on global COVID-19 vaccine
by StavrosK on Monday November 23, 2020 @07:41AM
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Oh that's encouraging, thanks! It's great if it works well, as I understand it it's a potential gamechanger (cancer vaccines etc).
Re:Oxford University breakthrough on global COVID-19 vaccine
by headmelted on Monday November 23, 2020 @05:40AM
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If we’re relying on solely getting immunity ourselves then we’re in really bad shape, although its not been well communicated.
We need the vaccine to remove the virus from circulation, not just keep us safe from it as individuals.
Re:Oxford University breakthrough on global COVID-19 vaccine
by bluGill on Monday November 23, 2020 @07:19AM
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We don't have evidence that is possible. There have been vaccines in the past that protected without stopping spread. We think that the reasons that happened don't apply, but we don't know that.
Re:Oxford University breakthrough on global COVID-19 vaccine
by xiphias2 on Monday November 23, 2020 @05:07AM
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Also so far the mRNA vaccines look to have less side effects. AstraZeneca is not doing charity, it's cheaper because they have the inferior vaccine.
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Re:Oxford University breakthrough on global COVID-19 vaccine
by xiphias2 on Monday November 23, 2020 @10:08AM
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Sure, maybe I just don't understand this whole charity thing. When governments can print trillions of dollars to ,,help the people in the pandemic'', why a few tens of billions of dollars matter when real companies with real experts are doing real work all day and night without sleeping. Instead of buying back bonds, governments should pay companies that help in this situation.
Re:Oxford University breakthrough on global COVID-19 vaccine
by dash2 on Monday November 23, 2020 @09:32AM
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This would be fine, but delete "fool".
Re:Oxford University breakthrough on global COVID-19 vaccine
by triangleman on Monday November 23, 2020 @09:49AM
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It's all right, he'll live