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Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by RcouF1uZ4gsC on Sunday November 22, 2020 @10:34PM (#25183343)
> Now, our worst fears have been confirmed. Police in Jackson, Mississippi, have started a pilot program that would allow security camera owners, including Ring owners, to patch the camera streams from their front doors directly to a police Real Time Crime Center.

Sounds like Mozilla is for user freedom with their purchased hardware only when users behave as Mozilla wants them to.

Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by throwaway69123 on Sunday November 22, 2020 @11:06PM (#25183472)
This is my take as well, what they have written is really dishonest. You could replace ring camera with mobile phone and make their same arguments and people would look at you like you are crazy.
Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by sellyme on Sunday November 22, 2020 @11:23PM (#25183567)
> You could replace ring camera with mobile phone

Okay, let's do that:

> [paraphrasing] We've published an app that will live-stream your phone's camera to the police, you should use it.

...yeah, that actually seems worse to me.

Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by throwaway69123 on Sunday November 22, 2020 @11:25PM (#25183575)
Some police departments already support video calls, no one cared.
Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by Reelin on Monday November 23, 2020 @01:08AM (#25184025)
24/7 live stream != video call
Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by throwaway69123 on Monday November 23, 2020 @02:24AM (#25184323)
Its not a 24/7 live stream you didnt read the article

> Lumumba said the city would only be able to access the devices when crimes occur in those areas.

Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by boomboomsubban on Monday November 23, 2020 @02:36AM (#25184390)
It's still an available 24/7 live stream even if they aren't accessing it constantly.

Further, they haven't provided any details on how they will effectively control access, the area a crime would allow access to, how long the cameras could be accessed, or how they would handle false reports. Saying they won't abuse it isn't enough.

Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by chris_wot on Sunday November 22, 2020 @10:39PM (#25183361)
It feels to me that Mozilla are getting more and more into areas that are not related to their core.
Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by dralley on Sunday November 22, 2020 @11:23PM (#25183570)
Mozilla Foundation. The non-profit, not the coproration that develops Firefox.

The Foundation is and always has been focused on the greater mission of privacy and freedom on the web.

Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by chris_wot on Monday November 23, 2020 @03:19AM (#25184632)
Wasn’t aware that the Ring cameras were on the web.
Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by brewdad on Monday November 23, 2020 @07:55PM (#25193950)
https://account.ring.com/account/dashboard

You need access to an account but that's exactly what we are discussing here.

Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by dathinab on Sunday November 22, 2020 @11:01PM (#25183449)
Constraining other peoples freedom, or otherwise possible ways to harm other people in any form is not included into the freedom people push for.

Your argument is kinda like saying if you prevent someone from hitting someone else your are against fredome because that person should be free to hit anyone they want to hit. Just that's a more subtle topic then hitting someone.

Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by throwaway69123 on Sunday November 22, 2020 @11:08PM (#25183480)
Your analogy isnt fair because we are talking about people doing things on private property, not violently assulting people.
Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by jakelazaroff on Sunday November 22, 2020 @11:18PM (#25183536)
“People doing things on private property” doesn’t quite capture it — we’re talking about creating a giant mesh surveillance network for the police state.
Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by throwaway69123 on Sunday November 22, 2020 @11:29PM (#25183591)
Until someone passes a law that permits the police to use this without permission and/or requiring people to own such devices, concern over this is hysteria.
Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by jakelazaroff on Sunday November 22, 2020 @11:38PM (#25183643)
No. A police state is a police state, even if some subset of the population decides they want it for whatever reason.
Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by naikrovek on Sunday November 22, 2020 @11:17PM (#25183533)
So brave to hide behind a throwaway.

I want the freedom to walk down my driveway and check my mail without being automatically recorded. That's the type of freedom being stepped on, here.

Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by throwaway69123 on Sunday November 22, 2020 @11:23PM (#25183565)
The irony of someone complaining about surveillance and throw aways in the same sentence.
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Re:Police in Mississippi to Pilot a Program to Live-Stream A... by lopmotr on Monday November 23, 2020 @01:40AM (#25184139)
Everything in your comment is an insult. That's probably why it's downvoted.