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Re:AB07-USB3FMC: The $1.65k eval board they can't be bothere... by Jdjdjdjjdhebe on Friday November 20, 2020 @12:44PM (#25162856)
One girl, Kate
Re:AB07-USB3FMC: The $1.65k eval board they can't be bothere... by dylan604 on Friday November 20, 2020 @12:59PM (#25163013)
never even looked at the credit for the article. "this guy" was just a generic reference to random person I don't know. kind of like Canadians refer to anyone as buddy.
Re:AB07-USB3FMC: The $1.65k eval board they can't be bothere... by mplewis on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:27PM (#25163301)
Guy isn't a gender-neutral term.
Re:AB07-USB3FMC: The $1.65k eval board they can't be bothere... by reaperducer on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:49PM (#25163543)
Guy isn't a gender-neutral term.

It is in many places. See my comment elsewhere in this thread. You may be unfamiliar with it in gender-neutral use, but it does exist.

Re:AB07-USB3FMC: The $1.65k eval board they can't be bothere... by jsolson on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:14PM (#25163171)
Unlike buddy, it's an inaccurate generic reference. It's a little more typing, but replacing "guy" with "person" or in this case "engineer" would be more precise (and inclusive).
Re:AB07-USB3FMC: The $1.65k eval board they can't be bothere... by reaperducer on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:20PM (#25163233)
"Guy" is a perfectly acceptable word for a man or a woman in much of the United States. When the PBS children's show The Electric Company starts with the cry, "Hey, you guys!" it is not excluding the female of the species. It's an idiom.

There are places where "you guys" is unusual. For example, when I moved to a certain part of Texas, it was unfamiliar to the people living there. Perhaps you live in a place where "guys" is uncommon and are unfamiliar with the term. In that case, I suggest you respect other people's cultures and embrace diversity.

Re:AB07-USB3FMC: The $1.65k eval board they can't be bothere... by beervirus on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:41PM (#25163457)
“You guys” is only uncommon in Texas because we have the shorter “y’all.”
Re:AB07-USB3FMC: The $1.65k eval board they can't be bothere... by edgyquant on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:55PM (#25163612)
That isn’t just Texas even as far north as Kentucky and the Southern bits of Illinois and Indiana people use y’all.
Re:AB07-USB3FMC: The $1.65k eval board they can't be bothere... by nqzero on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:24PM (#25163270)
in the plural or non-countable, such as this case, "guy" is ungendered
Re:AB07-USB3FMC: The $1.65k eval board they can't be bothere... by reaperducer on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:53PM (#25163581)
Exactly. For example, the phrase "bad guy" could apply to a man or a woman. You can't just change that to "bad girl" and keep the meaning. "Bad girl" means something else entirely.
Re:AB07-USB3FMC: The $1.65k eval board they can't be bothere... by inimino on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:35PM (#25163380)
"The one guy" is literally the opposite of uncountable.

Guys, this doesn't have to be so hard. Just check the authorship before commenting about the author! If you get it wrong and someone points it out, say "oops, I should have checked" and it's over.

Re:AB07-USB3FMC: The $1.65k eval board they can't be bothere... by beervirus on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:42PM (#25163468)
> Guys, this doesn't have to be so hard.

Please don’t assume our gender when preaching to us about inclusive language.

Re:AB07-USB3FMC: The $1.65k eval board they can't be bothere... by jsolson on Saturday November 21, 2020 @01:31AM (#25168193)
I debated calling this out and decided against because I knew you all would do it for me.

This, right here, is precisely why this issue is important. We have gendered pronouns that are so ingrained we try to pretend they're not gendered.

"All" is a _shorter_ and more inclusive substitute for "guys".

If you think this isn't important, just replace every occurance of "guys" that you see with "gals". If you're cool with that, good on you, but if you think for one second "oh don't say gals that might piss someone off" then, well, there's the kicker.

Re:AB07-USB3FMC: The $1.65k eval board they can't be bothere... by inimino on Saturday November 21, 2020 @07:58PM (#25173928)
I thought using "guys" in a conversation about the use of the word "guys" would be obvious enough to register as tongue-in-cheek. But y'all went and proved me wrong!
Re:AB07-USB3FMC: The $1.65k eval board they can't be bothere... by jessaustin on Friday November 20, 2020 @05:07PM (#25165641)
IME, gals aren't making these mistakes, and also aren't doubling down when called on them.
Re:AB07-USB3FMC: The $1.65k eval board they can't be bothere... by reaperducer on Friday November 20, 2020 @09:33PM (#25167470)
IME, gals aren't making these mistakes

Then you have limited E.