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Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by codetrotter on Friday November 20, 2020 @11:59AM (#25162302)
No delay but Bluetooth audio? Is that that even possible?

I use Bluetooth audio a lot when only listening to media but try and use Bluetooth headphones while playing a MIDI instrument. For me I struggle when I try to do that.

My headphones are Audio-Technica ATH-M50xBT. They support Bluetooth 5.0

https://www.audio-technica.com/en-gb/ath-m50xbt

I’ve been using them with a wire connection to my MPC X when doing music but a couple of days ago I used my MPC X in controller mode connected to my 2018 MacBook Air, and used Bluetooth Audio to see what that’d be like. As mentioned I found the delay to be too high. I tried to lower the sample buffer size in the MPC X software on the computer but with lower settings I got popping and clicking sounds.

Besides, the buffer size settings in the MPC software were not the main contributor to the delay AFAICT. The default setting of 512 samples, when used at 48kHz will mean 10.67 ms of delay, which according to some sources online is at about the upper limit of what you’d want when playing an instrument. And some sources say that for sounds with a steep attack (e.g. drums) you’d preferably actually have sub 6-7 ms delay.

But Bluetooth 5.0 adds a minimum of 32 ms of delay according to what I read online, and they also say that more likely it will be as much as a couple of hundred ms delay.

All I know for sure is that when I tried to play instruments through Bluetooth audio using the headphones I mentioned and the MPC X connected in controller mode to my computer with the MPC software, the delay was sufficiently high that it became difficult to play.

Whereas with a cable connection to my MPC X in standalone mode with the same headphones the delay is low enough that I personally don’t notice it, even when doing drum sounds.

Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by wlesieutre on Friday November 20, 2020 @12:30PM (#25162711)
For hardware from Apple's walled garden, here's some numbers on AirPods latency:

> What about results? The first-generation AirPods, which use Apple’s W1 chip, measure latency of 274 ms. Second-generation AirPods, released earlier this year and powered by Apple’s newer H1 chip, drop the latency to 178 ms. And AirPods Pro, which use the same H1 chip, are even better at 144 ms.

https://9to5mac.com/2019/12/22/airpods-latency-test/

Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by londons_explore on Saturday November 21, 2020 @03:47AM (#25168548)
That's pretty shocking considering hardware from 100 years ago could do the same with sub-microsecond latency. 100,000x worse!
Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by wlesieutre on Saturday November 21, 2020 @01:00PM (#25171343)
Yes, and my car burns more gasoline than horses used to
Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by cercatrova on Saturday November 21, 2020 @12:32PM (#25171112)
You can't compare wired to wireless, they both and different advantages and disadvantages.
Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by sdn90 on Friday November 20, 2020 @05:59PM (#25166128)
I think what OP meant is that Homepod only works using the Airplay protocol, where the delay is 2 seconds. Very few macOS apps support Airplay 2 which cuts it down significantly.