Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to distribute in December

Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by unnouinceput on Friday November 20, 2020 @09:00AM (#25160495)

Why would you be upset for? It's their life, not yours. Once you get vaccinated, ideally, you get immune to the virus. You neither can develop the disease nor spread it. It's the same as saying you don't want to work with people who didn't got vaccinated by any other number of vaccines (let you search wiki for full list as exercise) and I'm pretty sure it already happened.

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Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by prh8 on Friday November 20, 2020 @09:46AM (#25160880)

> It's their life, not yours

This attitude is why the pandemic rages on with such intensity in so many places

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Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by strombofulous on Friday November 20, 2020 @10:53AM (#25161571)

Because I don't want to be around people with a disease that's serious enough to shut down our society, if I am only 95% resistant to it

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Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by fuzxi on Friday November 20, 2020 @07:13PM (#25166717)

The 95% effective figure refers to the percentage of people who develop full immunity, not how resistant an individual is. A more accurate way of phrasing that would be "[...] if I only have a 95% chance of immunity".

I don't mean to split hairs; the distinction is important.

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Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by bluGill on Friday November 20, 2020 @09:25AM (#25160669)

Because it is only 95% effective. If everyone around me is also vaccinated it is likely that even if my vaccine doesn't work I'm still protected. This is what herd immunity is about.

Note that we don't know if vaccinated people can spread covid or not. It seems unlikely, but if it turns out being vaccinated means you become a non-symptomatic super spreader I reserve the right to change my stance based on that information.

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Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by anonuser123456 on Friday November 20, 2020 @10:02AM (#25161051)

The 95% effective is not a cliff function. The 5% that ‘get it’ have mild symptoms. We won’t know how effective it at preventing serious disease until millions have been inoculated, but it will likely be 99%+ effective with that outcome.

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Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by bluGill on Friday November 20, 2020 @02:21PM (#25163868)

We know that in one of the trials one of the serious cases was in the intervention group. We will of course need a lot more data to figure out what the real reduction in rate of serious events is.

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Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by vharuck on Friday November 20, 2020 @09:20AM (#25160629)

>It's their life, not yours

It's a lot of people's lives, not just theirs. Like with most vaccines, there'll be a fraction of the population who cannot safely get vaccinated. We need to think of this from a public health perspective: more unvaccinated people in spreading-prone situations means more risk to others (including those beyond the immediate situation) and more burden on health systems.

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Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by unnouinceput on Friday November 20, 2020 @09:25AM (#25160670)

Dude, read my point again. I was asking why would he get upset if is his colleagues decide not to vaccinate. Not anything else.

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Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by just-juan-post on Friday November 20, 2020 @11:18AM (#25161832)

isn't in insane how over the last few months people just assume their fellow man is a murderer for BREATHING?

this virus is causing more insanity than health effects.

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Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by macintux on Friday November 20, 2020 @09:08AM (#25160532)

* the vaccine is not 100% effective

* we don’t yet know whether the vaccine prevents transmission. You can probably be a carrier and spreader even if vaccinated

Those two facts alone mean we’re going to be wearing masks for quite some time, things won’t go back to normal for a while, and people are justified in being upset with others who refuse to protect everyone around them.

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Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by bamboozled on Friday November 20, 2020 @09:29AM (#25160707)

If we don’t even know a basic facts about the vaccine (whether people vaccinated can still transmit, how long it lasts), isn’t it natural for people too feel concerned about what else we don’t know ?

Seems to be a few unknowns still ?

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Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by floatingatoll on Friday November 20, 2020 @10:12AM (#25161174)

It’s natural for people to want perfect certainty before making health care decisions. That’s why public health policy exists: because there is never perfect certainty in vaccination, and yet we’ll be required to all the same.

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Re:Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to dist... by unnouinceput on Friday November 20, 2020 @09:26AM (#25160677)

You really missed my point. Read again my above comment.

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