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Re:NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircr... by fakedang on Thursday November 19, 2020 @01:49PM (#25152918)
You are correct regarding SIGINT, that allies don't mind being spied upon. What they do mind is when they themselves are being spied upon. Like Merkel's phone being tapped. Or the US recruiting on ground assets in Saudi Arabia.
Re:NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircr... by seppin on Thursday November 19, 2020 @03:37PM (#25154046)
> What they do mind is when they themselves are being spied upon

That's what SIGINT is.

> Like Merkel's phone being tapped.

Which is an example of SIGINT. And it was leaked which is why it became an issue. World leader's are always surveilled.

There's a certain level of aggression you use against acknowledged enemies that would be awkward if exposed against allies, that is not to say it doesn't still happen.

Re:NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircr... by fakedang on Friday November 20, 2020 @12:46AM (#25157652)
Oh, my bad at that, got a brain fart I suppose. Sweeped surveillance (which is usually SIGINT) is not minded, and often the backbone of programmes such as Five Eyes relies on that. Targeted surveillance (SIGINT cases that I mentioned) and espionage (mostly HUMINT) is frowned upon. HUMINT is especially frowned upon since it means you're actively investing in recruiting citizens against their government, and the intel is usually much more valuable and more expensive to garner. HUMINT Intel isn't practiced between staunch allies either, but maybe between uneasy allies and enemies.
Re:NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircr... by seppin on Saturday November 21, 2020 @03:26PM (#25172514)
> HUMINT Intel isn't practiced between staunch allies either

It most certainly is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard

Re:NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircr... by seppin on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @03:06PM (#25213672)
But it's rare and usually conditional. Large sections of the US IC still haven't forgiven Israel for Pollard.