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Re:Apple's 15% Deflection Tactic by zepto on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @08:13PM (#25145056)
The first three are all the same as saying ‘it’s pre-installed’

The fourth hasn’t been true for a long time.

Re:Apple's 15% Deflection Tactic by zeusk on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @08:29PM (#25145181)
A carrier can pre-install whatsapp, it still won't show up with normal text messages in the messages app but iMessage will.
Re:Apple's 15% Deflection Tactic by zepto on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @09:18PM (#25145469)
Why are ‘normal text messages’ somehow a big deal?
Re:Apple's 15% Deflection Tactic by swiley on Thursday November 19, 2020 @07:22AM (#25148770)
Because that's what people use first.

How is this so hard for you to understand, iMessage gets shoved in people's faces and is activated automatically. It's extremely anticompetitive and isolates people not on apples platform. It's far worse than anything microsoft did in the 90s.

Re:Apple's 15% Deflection Tactic by zepto on Thursday November 19, 2020 @10:18AM (#25150348)
How exactly is anyone ‘isolated’? There just doesn’t seem to be any basis for saying that that.

All it does is improve the use experience for people who do use Apple’s platform. They are just as able to communicate with people who have SMS as they were before and vice versa. You are going to need to explain this ‘isolation’.

Literally billions of people use competing messaging apps such as WhatsApp or Facebook messenger.

Re:Apple's 15% Deflection Tactic by swiley on Thursday November 19, 2020 @03:07PM (#25153759)
- You're not forced to create a Facebook account to use your phone

- Switching operating systems doesn't prevent you from receiving messages in Facebook groups you were in.

I'm not going to respond again because I don't think you're reading my responses. If you can't understand that ask your parents or caretaker for help.

Re:Apple's 15% Deflection Tactic by swiley on Thursday November 19, 2020 @07:33AM (#25148833)
It's not just preinstalled, it forces you to make an account to use the phone and inserts itself into what was previously the most popular messaging system in the US. If apple did something like this with the mail app everyone would probably completely flip out, the only reason they don't is because SMS was already terrible.