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Re:South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist ... by Rooster61 on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @02:16PM (#25128303)
> In the more advanced countries, such as Thailand, this is automated.

Having facial recognition everywhere isn't necessarily considered "advanced" in all circles. Technically, perhaps. Ethically? Not so much.

Facial recognition could be put everywhere in the US. Its primarily the political, legal, and social culture that prevents it, not the access to sufficient technology.

Re:South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist ... by km3r on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @02:30PM (#25128482)
calling this facial recognition is a bit of stretch when its more akin to "is a mask present?", not trying to match to people in a database. No different then self driving cars detecting a pedestrian. very far from unethical (although i would hope they would make an effort to accommodate all skin colors to not unintentionally discriminate against anyone.)
Re:South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist ... by vinni2 on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @03:23PM (#25129269)
> not trying to match to people in a database

Are you sure it’s not building one?

Re:South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist ... by jsilence on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @03:47PM (#25129593)
What is it going to record? "Dude with a mask" ?
Re:South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist ... by bathtub365 on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @11:36PM (#25133257)
“Dude who ignored a mask mandate from the government”
Re:South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist ... by vinni2 on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @04:03PM (#25129791)
Facial recognition with masks is already working [1]. So storing facial images of all customers entering store with or without mask is essentially the same.

[1] https://apex.aero/articles/facial-recognition-tech-works-mas...

Re:South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist ... by rzz3 on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @02:28PM (#25128457)
Facial recognition everywhere is a horrifying thought.
Re:South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist ... by bb88 on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @05:46PM (#25130951)
Some might see a million dead people as a worse thought.

I don't really like the idea of facial recognition, but the political class lives in a public facing world where every move they make is scrutinized. So they see the world maybe differently than when they're private citizens.

Re:South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist ... by rzz3 on Thursday November 19, 2020 @01:54PM (#25152984)
I guess it depends where each person falls on the “freedom vs safety” spectrum. I’m strongly on the “freedom” side. But I feel it’s a perspective based in some objectivity, as it’s generally a lot easier for one to protect themselves than to free themselves.
Re:South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist ... by smegger001 on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @10:25PM (#25132855)
perhaps it will incentivizes mask wearing to get around the facial recognize and tracking and help with covid as a side effect
Re:South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist ... by gumby on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @06:53PM (#25131477)
Software, or a person, could do this without knowing whose face is presented and without keeping records.
Re:South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist ... by Ao7bei3s on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @07:31PM (#25131733)
That's not enough. Someone standing in front of such a system cannot tell whether records are kept, or shared.

1. One risk is that the government will slowly erode any limitations. In Germany, one of the most privacy oriented countries, restaurants were required to collect contact information. This was announced as being strictly for covid contract tracing purposes. Less than a month later, the police in multiple states were found to have demanded and received access to those lists for reasons entirely unrelated to covid. So any default level of trust has already been betrayed.

2. Another risk is that the vendors themselves might prefer "alternative definitions" of record keeping and data sharing for various reasons (e.g. processing in the cloud and/or by third-party companies with even less restrictions, data collection for ML training purposes, selling the same dataset for profit, "flagged as hidden" vs "never actually stored", "stored to persistent media then deleted" vs "never persistently stored", preventing access by contractual/legal vs technical means...). The people making such promises are never ever the engineers that actually understand their system. And similar to the previous paragraph, companies have every incentive to slowly erode any guarantees they might've actually met at some point.

3. The people buying the products (shop owners) as a general rule have neither the expertise, time, motivation nor source code level access to call the vendors out.