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Re:South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist ... by vkou on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @01:35PM (#25127667)
Minimal lockdown isn't the reason those countries brought the virus under control.

One hard lockdown, supported by incredibly through contact tracing was.

I don't think a single polity in the US, including NYC had a single hard lockdown.

And I know that not a single polity in the US has managed to do effective contact tracing.

Re:South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist ... by Diederich on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @01:47PM (#25127859)
Thanks for your feedback.

To be clear: I wasn't saying that minimal lockdown was the reason for low numbers, though how I laid it out is definitely unclear.

My belief is that near universal mask compliance is the main reason some countries have managed to keep the virus under control even though they haven't been forced to do severe lockdowns.

Your point about contact tracing is relevant of course. I know both Japan and S. Korea did a lot of that, and of course the US didn't even try.

Re:South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist ... by disgruntledphd2 on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @02:31PM (#25128489)
It seems that both Japan and Korea did reverse contact tracing, where you figure out where the infected person got the disease. This is in contrast to many other places, which just tried to assess where the infected person could have spread the disease.

This may perhaps (along with masks, and the use of pretty much every source of data by Korea) explain much of the variance in outcomes.