Lax oversight allows Chicago police to avoid turning on their body cams

Re:Lax oversight allows Chicago police to avoid turning on t... by noodlesUK on Monday November 16, 2020 @05:06PM (#25117630)

We don’t need to create a private insurance market for yet another part of American life. Other countries have real oversight bodies with teeth that build public trust. It’s important that justice is done in these cases of abuse, and it also needs to be seen to be done by the public, which builds trust in the institutions of state.

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Re:Lax oversight allows Chicago police to avoid turning on t... by pasabagi on Monday November 16, 2020 @05:39PM (#25117993)

Do they? I'm only familiar with the IPCC in the UK, and they are basically worthless. Germany, for example, doesn't even have something like the IPCC. Are there any examples of working police oversight bodies?

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Re:Lax oversight allows Chicago police to avoid turning on t... by brainfish on Monday November 16, 2020 @05:16PM (#25117750)

Regulatory capture is extremely common in American life, and many of our current policing issues can arguably be attributed in some large part to overly powerful police unions. So to me this sounds like a lip-service-non-solution waiting to happen.

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Re:Lax oversight allows Chicago police to avoid turning on t... by seibelj on Monday November 16, 2020 @05:13PM (#25117728)

The point of insurance is they have to pay for it personally. If the government pays for insurance and also pays for penalties, we are in the same situation we are today.

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Re:Lax oversight allows Chicago police to avoid turning on t... by syshum on Monday November 16, 2020 @05:20PM (#25117805)

Unions would never allow that, and I highly doubt people on HN will be in support for weakening Public employee unions which I think should be completely abolished

//side note, FDR agreed.... which is ironic given that most people that support Public Employee unions think we need a new new deal FDR style

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Re:Lax oversight allows Chicago police to avoid turning on t... by drdeca on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @12:41AM (#25120627)

why [strikethrough]would[/strikethrough] [edit:do] you think people here would oppose weakening (or abolishing) police unions?

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Re:Lax oversight allows Chicago police to avoid turning on t... by Guest42 on Monday November 16, 2020 @05:18PM (#25117784)

Insurance exists for nearly everything. The difference in this particular scenario is the party responsibility for the liability.

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