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Re:Moderna Covid vaccine candidate almost 95% effective, tri... by spac on Monday November 16, 2020 @12:57PM (#25114807)
I think this is missing the mark. Italian doctors were choosing who would get an ICU bed and who would not. There were more patients needing ICU beds than the beds available. Not giving an ICU bed to someone in need meant basically a death sentence. That is not the normal state of affairs, as far I can understand.
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Re:Moderna Covid vaccine candidate almost 95% effective, tri... by salmon30salmon on Monday November 16, 2020 @01:09PM (#25114966)
Well again, not _really_. We were also ventilating people who didn't need it. You don't need an ICU bed if you aren't vented. Furthermore, the mortality rate of being on an ventilator is non-negligible.

I would be interested in seeing if there is data to say whether being put in the ICU actually _increased_ risk of death. Of course this would be hard to prove as only the most sick went to the ICU etc.

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