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Re:Moderna Covid vaccine candidate almost 95% effective, tri... by rwcarlsen on Monday November 16, 2020 @12:09PM (#25114112)
The fear and media has convinced people like you that crazy things are true like a 20% hospitalization rate. But check out the cdc: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidvi... . It looks like the hospitalization rate of (cases) is hovering around 7%. That means the positive hospitalization rate of _infections_ (which would include people that never got tested and never went to a hospital, but also got covid) would be even considerably lower than that. Which would square with my experience - being acquainted with ~100 people that have had covid and knowing nobody that went to the hospital.
Re:Moderna Covid vaccine candidate almost 95% effective, tri... by disgruntledphd2 on Monday November 16, 2020 @12:29PM (#25114406)
Like, but that's still far more than the capacity of many Western medical systems.

It doesn't matter how much you overshoot medical capacity, because as soon as you do, death rates go way, way up.

Re:Moderna Covid vaccine candidate almost 95% effective, tri... by bosswipe on Monday November 16, 2020 @12:58PM (#25114823)
So you're saying my media is evil and trying to make me fearful using false exaggerated information, but somehow your media has no motivation besides giving you perfect accurate information. I'm an easily fooled rube while you're able to float above it and extract only the good info .
Re:Moderna Covid vaccine candidate almost 95% effective, tri... by InitialLastName on Monday November 16, 2020 @04:28PM (#25117192)
You've just cited the overriding mantra (for everyone) of our times.

"Everyone I disagree with is either acting in bad faith and trying to manipulate people or is a rube who's being manipulated. All of my opinions come exclusively from rational philosophical means achieved independently of any external media influences."