Moderna Covid vaccine candidate almost 95% effective, trials show

Re:Moderna Covid vaccine candidate almost 95% effective, tri... by VectorLock on Monday November 16, 2020 @11:57AM (#25113966)

The economic impact isn't coming from people dying, its from the measures being used to prevent people from dying. It seems like the economy operates on such a knife edge a little push has serious repercussions. We shut down restaurants because they're a prime locus for spreading. Now those employees are out of a job. The restaurant closes or can't pay its rent, now the owner of the building has knock-on effects.

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Re:Moderna Covid vaccine candidate almost 95% effective, tri... by davrosthedalek on Monday November 16, 2020 @12:22PM (#25114302)

Even without mandated lockdown, the effect is the same. If I have a 1% chance of dying/long term effects, and I can reduce it if I don't go to restaurants, I won't go to restaurants.

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Re:Moderna Covid vaccine candidate almost 95% effective, tri... by bronco21016 on Monday November 16, 2020 @01:23PM (#25115124)

Agreed. Even with significantly reduced capacity it doesn’t seem restaurants around here are turning people away.

Demand has dropped off. Whether there are government restrictions or not, people have overwhelmingly decided it’s not worth the risk.

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Re:Moderna Covid vaccine candidate almost 95% effective, tri... by anoncake on Monday November 16, 2020 @03:22PM (#25116545)

For the vast majority of people, that chance is significantly lower.

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Re:Moderna Covid vaccine candidate almost 95% effective, tri... by davrosthedalek on Monday November 16, 2020 @03:44PM (#25116781)

For dying, yes, for long term effects, it's not so clear. And I would also count "I infected my parents and they died" as long term effects.

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Re:Moderna Covid vaccine candidate almost 95% effective, tri... by anoncake on Monday November 16, 2020 @03:45PM (#25116788)

There is no evidence for long-term effects, only anecdotes.

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Re:Moderna Covid vaccine candidate almost 95% effective, tri... by davrosthedalek on Monday November 16, 2020 @04:49PM (#25117403)

I'm sure many New Yorkers whose parents died will disagree.

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Re:Moderna Covid vaccine candidate almost 95% effective, tri... by anoncake on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @01:44AM (#25120879)

They don't use your private definition of "long-term damage".

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Re:Moderna Covid vaccine candidate almost 95% effective, tri... by davrosthedalek on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @05:50AM (#25122227)

And you know that because you have asked them all?

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Re:Moderna Covid vaccine candidate almost 95% effective, tri... by anoncake on Tuesday November 17, 2020 @06:16AM (#25122416)

I will neither use your personal terminology nor play games like this. Good day.

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Re:Moderna Covid vaccine candidate almost 95% effective, tri... by nemothekid on Monday November 16, 2020 @01:53PM (#25115483)

>The economic impact isn't coming from people dying, its from the measures being used to prevent people from dying

I would say the economic impact is from the fact there is a pandemic. Even Sweden, which tried to avoid lockdowns, still saw an economic impact because people will avoid going out during a pandemic.

The fact that businesses are forced to close, or in the other case, that people would have been forced to work during a pandemic for fear of being homeless is a public policy failure.

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